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Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-25-2015, 01:47 PM
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Posted By JoakimBL
More people need to read the actual rules. OB is...

More people need to read the actual rules. OB is not defined by the surface material, but by OB lines. Sometimes that line can be the boundary between two different materials, like the edge of a...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-14-2015, 02:55 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
Well, essentially I'm saying the same thing as JC...

Well, essentially I'm saying the same thing as JC and others, though maybe not a as eloquently. I apologise for english not being my first language.

Now refer to JC's post to see why all of your...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-13-2015, 04:58 PM
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Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
I second JC17393's posts.

I second JC17393's posts.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-13-2015, 08:20 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
If that is the case, then there shouldn't be a...

If that is the case, then there shouldn't be a need for a second when there is a penalty involved, should there? And if players are considered so honourable, why can they not call, or second there...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-12-2015, 05:50 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
It's not that I think the rule is unclear at the...

It's not that I think the rule is unclear at the moment. It's just very open to misuse. And I agree that it's unlikely to change behaviour, but that was, as I understand it, the reason for the change...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-12-2015, 05:40 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
I agree with you, I do, BUT, my concern is still...

I agree with you, I do, BUT, my concern is still (hypothetical I know) that because a second is not needed, that the call is wrong. Therefor the stance might be legal, and therefore the rethrow can...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-11-2015, 07:05 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
You misunderstand my point Chuck. I think the...

You misunderstand my point Chuck. I think the rules should be written perfectly. How players apply them has nothing to do with how it should be written. Thats about educating the players, not writing...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-11-2015, 02:29 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
Coupe, its fine that we disagree, but you are...

Coupe, its fine that we disagree, but you are either misunderstanding my point, or trying to discredit it.
you said that: "JoakimBL's argument in favor of eliminating the warning on the stance rule...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-09-2015, 04:33 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
Your putting words in my mouth. My main argument...

Your putting words in my mouth. My main argument is neither rule uniformity nor simplicity. It is fairness and the opportunity (though mostly hypothetical) for taking advantage of the rule. BUT,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-09-2015, 07:29 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
I totally agree that the throw from an illegal...

I totally agree that the throw from an illegal stance should be disallowed. You will not find me saying otherwise. I just want there to be a second to the call, to make sure that there actually was...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-08-2015, 11:54 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
And also, there is no consequence for the call,...

And also, there is no consequence for the call, other than a warning. The player can take the warning and play on, not so when he has to rethrow. Mostly my problem with the rule change is that I...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-07-2015, 06:25 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
The integrity of the rules have nothing to do...

The integrity of the rules have nothing to do with how they are enforced on the course. If you donate think the integrity of the rules are something to consider, why have them at all?
The rules...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-05-2015, 05:00 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
It's about the integrity of the rules. Of the...

It's about the integrity of the rules. Of the total number of hole outs made in sanctioned play did the disc enter the basket through the top, bottom or side of the basket? Probably not very many,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-04-2015, 04:11 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
But your totally ignoring the scenario where a...

But your totally ignoring the scenario where a nonexistent foot fault is called, and there is no way to change that call, even if the rest of the group is in agreement that there was no fault.
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-02-2015, 06:55 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,081
Posted By JoakimBL
What I really donate like about the rule is if...

What I really donate like about the rule is if one player calls it, another player cannot say, "No he didn't" The call and the rethrow still stands, which is absurd. But I guess it's theoretical,...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 01-02-2015, 09:36 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 657
Posted By JoakimBL
yet another ... well spotted Captain Bad. The...

yet another ... well spotted Captain Bad. The rules are becoming the biggest joke of our sport. Difficult to take the PDGA rules committee seriously, as long as they refuse to address the problems in...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 11-14-2014, 09:21 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,126
Posted By JoakimBL
Sorry for the thread drift, but I would hate for...

Sorry for the thread drift, but I would hate for my game to be so dependable on an irreplaceable disc.

As for what to do: If you feel that the disc is illegal and you cannot get it to a legal...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 11-12-2014, 06:32 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,126
Posted By JoakimBL
Actually this issue wasn't an issue in earlier...

Actually this issue wasn't an issue in earlier revisions. Previously it was grounds for DQ to even have an illegal disc in you bag, unless it was rendered illegal during play in the current round. So...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 11-10-2014, 01:16 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,126
Posted By JoakimBL
But how do you distinguish between asking a...

But how do you distinguish between asking a question and "officially questioning" a disc? The rules doesn't make that distinction, so how are we supposed to?

But even if you could, how would it be...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 11-07-2014, 04:33 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,126
Posted By JoakimBL
I still can't see questioning another players...

I still can't see questioning another players disc(s) as being grounds for DQ. As a player, it is my prerogative, and to a certain extent my responsibility, as nobody else is checking discs for...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 11-06-2014, 08:39 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,126
Posted By JoakimBL
Wow Chuck. That seems like a big stretch. DQ for...

Wow Chuck. That seems like a big stretch. DQ for questioning a disc or multiple discs? First of all, I can't find anything in the rules about it, but even if there was, that would just be one...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 09-24-2014, 06:17 AM
Replies: 214
Views: 10,982
Posted By JoakimBL
I disagree Scarpfish. There is absolutely no...

I disagree Scarpfish. There is absolutely no reason that the rule could not be constructed so that it it also clearly penalizes an incorrect hole score, and any an all discrepancies between the...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 09-24-2014, 05:43 AM
Replies: 214
Views: 10,982
Posted By JoakimBL
No one will be surprised that I think it is yet...

No one will be surprised that I think it is yet another example of badly written rules. Even though Dan Ensor gets little support for his argument, I think he argues a valid point (In this last part...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 09-04-2014, 04:36 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 2,534
Posted By JoakimBL
My apologies. I had overlooked that part. But...

My apologies. I had overlooked that part.
But in that case I disagree with your opinion about a verbal or nonverbal declaration. IMO ;) The disc is lost when the 3 minutes are up. If you do a...
Forum: Rules Questions & Discussion 09-03-2014, 04:00 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 2,534
Posted By JoakimBL
please quote that rule?

please quote that rule?
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