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I first tried 12x rocs and the issue for me personally was they seem to be inconsistant run wise. Some of the 12x I got they felt like 11x and some 12x were horrible in my hand. It was almost like when putting them next to each other like a eagle L vs eagle X. I like the 11x because the rim is shallower at least the ones I have thrown, plus I buy them beatin so I have a good turnover disc.
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