I had a worlds stamp 175 Champ Archon that was very flippy and a 168 and 171 sparkle Q Astra that flew nothing like the roller champ archon and more like a seasoned wraith with less fade. My 168 had some turn on a shallow hyzer flip at 380' on a low line while the 171 was stable straight with late fade on a similar line. If you throw 280' with a valk, I'd recommend sticking with the valk until you can get it another 50' further unless you need a disc that will finish left or handle a little headwind. Sorry, I don't throw much pro plastic so I can't speak to how their base plastic flies.
Also, yea for a company that doesn't get enough love here.
Edit: Q Astra is a big overlap with my fresh star Orcs.
Ultimate and disc golf are polar opposites. Ultimate uses "the Spirit of the Game" as an honor code to enforce fair play. Disc golf just ignores fair play and lets anything go. - Three Putt
Last edited by 7ontheline; 03-29-2013 at 06:34 PM.