Also, I have thrown the Esp's an find they're more along the lines of a TP but start more stable in every area and takes a lot longer to beat into really super straight. Not sure why no one uses the X, they probably use the Z mold on the X and make it poop. But, X plastic always gets no mention or hated by noobs cause it's not indestructable.
As you see I'm thrwoing the Gazelle, and my problem is this. Cyclones are just farther than a Roc, Gazelles are just shorter than a Solf, both two different lines and types of throw. When my form is on I suffer in the middle ground. But, when my form is off as it is now(I promise it's way off) it's just a big mess anyways. Lol