Bag on Lock?

[thugjitsu]

Any holes you guys might find? i've tried to minimize molds and use different wear/weight to cover most shots.

Distance

168g Z Nuke OS- Max d into a headwind or big big hyzers.
168g Star Boss- Max d in calm or tailwind, big anyhyzers.
171 CE Fx- Doglegs, sidearm flicks, tommies/thumbers if necessary.

175 S-PD- sometimes in the bag depending on course, replaces my star boss if course is shorter, slightly worn to be able to hold an anny if i want it too.

Fairway

175g KC Pro teebird- stable fairway, holds any line, comes out in a headwind.
154 kc pro teebird- stable/understable, hyzerflips to lock on straight, great in tailwind, can hold an anny line. great for flicks.
175g kc pro Cheetah- easy turnover, great for hyzer-flip - to turover, great in tailwind.

Midrange

180g 2008 champ thrower roc- great overstable midrange, short flex shots.
155g champ japan open roc- straight shots, replaced my buzzz.
180g beat beat 11x flat roc - hyzer-flip to turnover or short rollers to medium range rollers

Putters
175 ESP Zone- about same distance/use as the champ roc, but will skip like nobodies business.
3 175 RFF Wizards- putting, short flicks.

[MrGlass01]

Looks pretty solid! What distances etc. what happens when you loose your flippy roc, do you have replacements ready? Maybe add an understable driver that is longer than the cheetah. Leo,valk.

Take my advice with a grain of salt. Ymmv

[thugjitsu]

I throw my teebirds on anything under 400 unless I need more flex which a boss will accomplish easier. I am putting extra roc's in my bag and throwing them every second shot to break them in. I'm thinking/hoping one of the saints will be a nice understable driver at max d but I'm still working in my form to where a fresh light boss will fill the void.

I'm reluctant to try a balk for some reason but I believe star might be the way to go for a tad bit of extra stability?

[Oklahyzer]

That's all I'd consider...an essy/understable driver. Valk would be a good choice...even one of the more stable Rivers. If you want a more stable Valk (probably a good idea for you) get a 170+ champ. They seem to be fairly consistently stable. I like stars better, but they can vary a lot and will break in to be more understable than maybe what you're wanting. I can't tell from comments and vids if the Saint will be Valk-ish or not but so far it seems similar...like a Viking maybe (and a Viking would also be an excellent Valk alternative choice for you, especially since you have some power, although it may overlap a bit with your PD at first).

[jdw80550]

My question is there is a huge speed gap between the teebirds and the boss/nuke, if you're throwing the birds 400' how much are you having to power down the boss for a 415' shot? Wouldn't it help to have something to help bridge that gap. Maybe a wraith/surge or PD?

[thugjitsu]

The boss will flex back better off an anhyzer than my tb's will. For some reason I don't like wraiths but mabye a p-line pd to fill that gap instead of a wraith? Because I would like to keep similar molds.

[BrotherDave]

P-Pds can get flippy. I'd try something like an QOLF for that, or even Destroyer if you want to go just a bit slower than the Boss.

[thugjitsu]

So I bought a few x-out star wraiths in the low 170's to have them be a lil less stable and they are perfect, and they bomb as well, thanks for the suggestions.

One more question. Since p-pd's get flippy do they roll well? Im still torn on finding a consistent roller.

[StarFirebird]

I've been using a Star Roadrunner and a Champion Mamba as a roller.

I can still throw my Roadrunner farther as a roller,but my Mamba is slowly catching up.Brand new, the Mamba is very quick to flip over.

[thugjitsu]

^haha you said the two molds I've tried, but I'm willing to give the roadrunner another shot, would you say star or champ? FYI I don't 'lay' my rollers dow but throw flippy discs and let them do the work.

The last champ roadrunner I had was freakishly straight so mabye I should give star a go?