End of Jump Putting as we know it

[sloppydisc]

No. But isn't it a fault if you follow through over your lie? I thought you had to throw and maintain a position behind your lie. Am I allowed to take a small run up, launch a throw, and then follow through past my lie on the fairway? Damn! No wonder this game is so tough. I've been doing it wrong.

Ken Climo here I come.

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by blur

why not include follow through behind your lie?

Huh? If I'm running or stepping up to a full-force throw behind my mini, the only place my body wants to follow-through is in front of my mini.

I'm not clear what's being proposed here---either "stand and deliver", or moving the 10-meter circle out much further? Or I'm just confused. Again.

[JC17393]

Originally Posted by sloppydisc

No. But isn't it a fault if you follow through over your lie? I thought you had to throw and maintain a position behind your lie. Am I allowed to take a small run up, launch a throw, and then follow through past my lie on the fairway? Damn! No wonder this game is so tough. I've been doing it wrong.

Ken Climo here I come.

Yes, you are allowed to follow through anywhere outside the 10-meter circle.

The rule book isn't that lengthy a read, really.

[blur]

Originally Posted by DavidSauls

Huh? If I'm running or stepping up to a full-force throw behind my mini, the only place my body wants to follow-through is in front of my mini.

No, I'm proposing that at any point on any shot you should never cross the line.. it might mean you need to take your shot a few feet early to compensate for your follow through.

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by blur

No, I'm proposing that at any point on any shot you should never cross the line.. it might mean you need to take your shot a few feet early to compensate for your follow through.

So you'd allow people to release, say, 5' behind the mini as long as, on their follow-through, they ran up to it, but not beyond? 10'? 20'? Could they release 5' behind the mini and not run up to it? This could be advantageous on wooded courses. But it would definitely be easy to call.

[mashnut]

There are definitely some spots I've been in where throwing from 20' behind my lie would have saved me at least a stroke, I can make it look like I have a 20' follow through...

In all seriousness, I fail to see the issue with a follow through beyond your lie, I've seen lots of people who don't hit the exact spot behind their lie, but none who step in front of the lie before releasing on a fairways shot, seems like a non-problem that doesn't need fixing.

[BrotherDave]

Originally Posted by sloppydisc

No. But isn't it a fault if you follow through over your lie? I thought you had to throw and maintain a position behind your lie. Am I allowed to take a small run up, launch a throw, and then follow through past my lie on the fairway? Damn! No wonder this game is so tough. I've been doing it wrong.

Ken Climo here I come.

Yeah, now stop calling me for foot faults you bastard!

[juju]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Nope. New rules should be tested at the biggest events if they're intended to solve perceived rules problems. If it works or doesn't work there then that knowledge can extend to lower events. For example, the sudden death rules in the NFL were first tried in the playoffs and have now moved to regular season games.

Nope, NFL looked silly testing rules in the playoffs as well.

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by mashnut

.....seems like a non-problem that doesn't need fixing.

That'd be my feeling about this whole thread. If I was given Absolute Power to remake the rulebook---a mistake the PDGA hasn't even hinted at making, by the way---I'd have a lot to do before I ever got around to worrying about jump-putts or Feldberg-walking-putts.

[blur]

Originally Posted by DavidSauls

So you'd allow people to release, say, 5' behind the mini as long as, on their follow-through, they ran up to it, but not beyond? 10'? 20'? Could they release 5' behind the mini and not run up to it? This could be advantageous on wooded courses. But it would definitely be easy to call.

20', 10'.. that may be a bit much, but a designated area behind the disc could offer the opportunity to shoot before your lie with follow-through is what I'm talking about.

It just seems that since the sport has become more and more competitive, people are pushing the rules harder too. Therefore rules must become stricter and more defined....

HENCE THIS DISCUSSION where people are allowed to have varying opinions allowing other options to be considered in rulings.