End of Jump Putting as we know it

[MNcyclone]

Originally Posted by dusty5150

fixed it for you.

What if I wanted to jump-land-putt? That would be fine also. Don't go pretendin to fix what aint broken.

[General Scales]

Originally Posted by MNcyclone

Everyone in this thread is being really melodramatic. For a while I jump putted every single putt from even 10' away from the basket. Legally. And it would still be legal under the new rules.

Line up 30 cm behind your marker. Jump putt up to your marker. Presto, a jump putt that never crosses your lie that is legal at any spot on the course.

That's a fun way to mess with people's head. You can see them salivating to call a foot fault.

[dusty5150]

Originally Posted by MNcyclone

What if I wanted to jump-land-putt? That would be fine also. Don't go pretendin to fix what aint broken.

absolutely!

[Cgkdisc]

Somewhat similar to my putting example C-3 starting around 2:52 in this Demonstrating Balance video: http://www.pdga.com/demonstrating-balance-putting

[the_pwnerator]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Somewhat similar to my putting example C-3 starting around 2:52 in this Demonstrating Balance video: http://www.pdga.com/demonstrating-balance-putting

Very interesting, thanks for that.

[Discwrangler]

I've been saying 50m circle for years. Jump putting looks so dumb, it has to help the sport.

[MNcyclone]

Originally Posted by General Scales

That's a fun way to mess with people's head. You can see them salivating to call a foot fault.

OMG you have no idea. When I was doing this people would fall over themselves to invent bullchit rules to call me on.

"You can't leave the ground within 10m"
"You line up 30cm from the FRONT of your marker so you foot faulted"
"You have to line up 10cm behind your mark"
"You must maintain balance with your plant foot before picking it up at all"

ALL things I actually heard during league play.

[General Scales]

Originally Posted by MNcyclone

OMG you have no idea. When I was doing this people would fall over themselves to invent bullchit rules to call me on.

"You can't leave the ground within 10m"
"You line up 30cm from the FRONT of your marker so you foot faulted"
"You have to line up 10cm behind your mark"
"You must maintain balance with your plant foot before picking it up at all"

ALL things I actually heard during league play.

Next time I go play league, I'm going to do this just to see how many people try to come up with some Bullchit (I like that word, I'm stealing it) rules that I haven't heard yet.

[Dan Ensor]

I'm gonna point fingers here. Have a little respect for the game! If we all respected the game, none of this would be an issue. No one would be jump putting, because it's questionably legal.
I don't call many infractions, but I have a disdain for people trying to gain advantage from the rules rather than using the rules as guidelines for a fair competition.
Have some respect for the players around you! Every time you questionably jump-putt rather than putt-jumping, it is an insult to every player in your group. You're exploiting their good nature for the possibility you'll get lucky and shoot 1 stroke better than your skill level.

It should be your goal that your game is legally beyond reproach.

It's pretty easy for me to remember the rules. It's never terribly logistically difficult to follow the rules. It's just easy at times to break the rules. That's when you need to remember that you're playing golf. It's a gentleman's game. A true test of skill undertaken by throwers of discs. It's not a document that is picked apart by lawyers and masters of loophole.

If I keep two things in mind while I'm playing, I am confident I won't break any rules.
Throw your shot from the point your previous disc landed. (With the obvious exception of tee shots)
Respect your environment (roads, pedestrians, buildings, foilage, activity areas etc.)



One more thing; it's been mentioned that 'the' problem is that players don't know the rules. And that is our fault.
We introduce our friends to the game, hand them a disc, and maybe teach them the fun stuff, like throwing a disc. Then they line up to an approach a couple feet away from the tree-line their disc is sitting in, and we figure it's too much of a bother to tell them the rules. Normalizing the action by telling ourselves that only douchebags teach people the rules that make their sport fun.

You want this sport to gain respect? How is it going to gain respect while people are more concerned with gaining strokes on their buddies by stepping 3 inches to either side of their lie than whether the sport they're playing, the way they are playing it, is a respectable test of skill, strategy, will, and execution? Every other sport that you're thinking about that is respected, but full of people the same as us, reaching for unfair advantage at any possible juncture, EARNED THEIR RESPECT by being a respectable sport. No one thinks the Hack-a-Shaq, call a time-out to advance the ball to half-court bs that happens in the NBA makes basketball a viable option for good competition. Hack-a-Shaq is an intentional foul that the players know refs will be berated for calling. People respect the game for the true competitors; playing on the streets and calling their own fouls. Because that's how the game they love is played. Fair and just. Jump-putts are the hack-a-Shaq of disc golf. Counting on the social norm to prevent onlookers from holding you to the rules you're playing by. Counting on disc golfers to gasp in disbelief that someone dared to mention that you've just cheated the entire field of competition. It depresses me immensely.


I'll get off my soap-box now, and apologize for the plethora of typos etc. that I'm sure to have missed.

[Jay Dub]

I agree with Dan. The only reason this is an issue is because players are trying to stretch the rules or find loop holes. The PDGA needs to get tough and tell players you can not go past your marker, period!

If you can't play by the rules then you're not playing golf, you're just throwing discs.