Plastic cannon's new bag.

[plastic cannon]

Originally Posted by keltik

A beat x avenger can go 450+ no problem.

Maybe I should just get a couple of these and use one for my turning driver after it gets beat.

[keltik]

I had a 2005 AM Worlds X Avenger that did 400+ turnovers like it was it's job. I miss that disc. The A-SS is a great turnover disc as well.

[plastic cannon]

Update: I did away with the Ti force and the Nuke. I replaced them with a ESP and Z crush. The crush has a small amount of turn, while the Z has none. I added a Z reaper as my stable fairway driver, and a ESP flash as my long bomber. The trouble is, i'm finding the crush overlaps with the avenger. If I had to choose, the avengers would stay. Now I did just pick up a players cup force that is kinda beat. I'm thinking about pairing that with a fresh Z or my Ti force. The problem with the Ti force though is that it has little glide. Basically I am in need of something stable and longer then my avengers. Unless you would make a argument that the Crush/Avenger don't overlap.