Wake's Bag

[wake911]

Well, I think my bag is officially done for some time now. I took about 5 yrs off, and came back to a very weak bag in my closet. I've taken the last 3 months experimenting with some new discs, new styles of disc.

I've mapped out every shot, and think i have everything I need. I've played with it for a couple rounds now, and it feels really good. Everything from 600' to putting, left, straight, right at all distances. And i'm comfortable with these discs (still learning my leopard/vulcan, but so far very happy with them) I actually drew a chart mapping distances and which disc does what at each distance to make sure I was covered. And i finally have no gaps in my chart. I need a backup for each disc. I never want to have to improvise in a tourney, hence the backup of everything. I have a "main" of each disc, that is thrown until it beats in or is lost.

2 157g Blizz Champ Boss
2 175g Champ Boss
2 175g Star Vulcan
2 175g Champ Firebird
2 175g Champ Eagle
2 175g Champ Leopard
2 175g KC Whippets
2 180g Roc (one slightly beat in)
2 171g Roc (one slightly beat in)
3 180g KC Aviars (one slightly beat in)
2 dx Aviar Putt and Approach(one for long putts, 1 for short)

21 discs
2 putters

[Wofles]

Looks solid. The only problem you may find is that at first your leos are not gonna be all that understable. Champ and especially at max weight are usually just straight for a long time and unless you can throw 400 they are hard to hyzer flip and such. If that is the case, a pro would make a great in-between until one is worn in enough. Same thing with your roc. It might be a while till one is in the understable slot. A comet or heavy dx shark would fit that in the mean time while still feeling like your roc. I had this exact problem with leopards when I first started using them. They start out kinda like mini-teebirds.

[wake911]

I'm freaking loving my Leopards. They turn just the right amount on a soft shot, and then come back the same amount, I get good distance, with very little effort, and even when thrown low to the ground, they just glide all the way to the target.

I don't have a problem getting max weights to turn/flip, i actually have to power down substantially on not overstable discs or they become uncontrollable.

[Dan Ensor]

Originally Posted by wake911

I don't have a problem getting max weights to turn/flip, i actually have to power down substantially on not overstable discs or they become uncontrollable.

That sounds like an issue you might want to address with practice, not plastic.

[wake911]

Originally Posted by Dan Ensor

That sounds like an issue you might want to address with practice, not plastic.

i don't really agree with this statement (though i do agree that practice is way more important than plastic).

I put more torque(spin) on discs than the average player. I always have since the first day i was disc golfing. There are positives and negatives to this. Every disc plays more understable than the ratings for me due to this. But i can alsoget more distance than the average person.

Previously i would have to use one of my overstable discs and throw it with anhyzer in order to turn right. Now i buy discs that make that work for me, and allow a consistent flat release to get my turnover drives to the right. My turnover driver is just more overstable than yours, not a big deal, that's why they make different discs.

[Dan Ensor]

Originally Posted by wake911

I put more torque(spin) on discs than the average player. I always have since the first day i was disc golfing. There are positives and negatives to this. Every disc plays more understable than the ratings for me due to this. But i can alsoget more distance than the average person.

Spin makes discs act more overstable, not understable.

My statement was targeted at the "uncontrollable" you mentioned.

What kind of distances are you getting?

Just to be fececious, I'll mention that my turnover disc is a Flick, and then ask if your turnover driver is still more overstable than mine. Just to be fececious.

[Cyclone2]

Originally Posted by wake911

I put more torque(spin) on discs than the average player. I always have since the first day i was disc golfing.

Off axis torque perhaps?

[Dan Ensor]

Originally Posted by Cyclone2

Off axis torque perhaps?

SHHHHH!!! I was trying to be inconspicuous!

[wake911]

i can consistently throw my aviars about 300+, rocs up to 350+, boss 450+, and blizz boss 500+ for my distances, on course.

maybe my terminology is incorrect, but the actual spin of the disc, rhbh is clockwise on the face of the disc. when i get it to spin faster, through more snap, it flips to the right. the same power toss done with little snap, causing less spin will not go to the right.

It's the same as the high speed turn, and low speed fade. The more spin I put on the disc, the farther it floats in a straight path. I use this shot with my leopard now, short approach, not a lot of arm speed, but strong snap causing lots of clockwise spin. Thrown flat it is able to travel quite far, with a virtually straight path. If i don't get the snap causing the spin, it will fall to the left way early and be a poor shot.

Obviously, when i throw off axis from flat, that greatly affects the flight path, and makes it uncontrollable.

[wake911]

So an update to my bag(for my own record keeping really), as well as a 2nd bag i'm making (for quick rounds and shorter courses/travel bag)

Vitals:
Years playing/experience: 11-12yrs (took 5 off in the middle though)
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH when needed
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: 250/300'; 300/350'; 400/450+'

Main Bag: (shrunk some since last time)

Drivers (weight/plastic/model/(condition)/use):
175 Star Boss - Max D RHFH
175 Star Vulcan - Max D Annys
175 Champ Boss - Main distance RHBH Driver
157 Blizz Boss - Max D RHBH, slight turn right
175 Champ Firebird - Main RHFH Driver, "Must turn left" driver, skip shots, Get Outta Jail shots
174 Champ Eagle L - Main Straight with slight fade driver up to 400'
175 Champ Eagle X - Windy Day Eagle up to 400'
175 Champ Leopard - Main straight to turn driver up to 400'

Mids:
175 DX Whippet - left turn, wind beater
175 KC Pro Whippet - Windy Approaches (shorter throws than dx)
180 KC Pro Roc (new) - Main mid range
180 KC Pro Roc (beat) - straight to turning mid range, (finishes left though)
171 KC Pro Roc (new) - short low ceiling mid( when not enough air for Aviars)

Putters:
175 KC Pro Aviar (new) - Main driving putter
175 KC Pro Aviar (beat) - less power approaches, anny drives
174 JK Pro Aviar (new/fairly floppy) - Outside circle putting, Short Approaches that need to stick
175 DX Aviar - Main Putter within the circle.


Small Bag for quick rounds, short courses, travel bag(stay in the trunk just in case)

Drivers (weight/plastic/model/(condition)/use):
169 Star Boss - Max D, low ceiling shots, BH or FH
175 Champ Eagle L - Main Driver

Mids:
180 KC Pro Roc - Main Mid
*175 DX Whippet - Utility safety disc (2nd disc to drop if not room in bag)
*167 KC Pro Roc - Shorter mid, anny mid (1st disc to drop if not room in bag)

Putters:
175 KC Pro Aviar - Driving/Approach Putter
175 DX Aviar - Putting