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Old 12-11-2012, 05:20 PM
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So a split tie-die that's green on one side and red on the other is gonna fly lopsided, right?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:20 PM
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Pink and other bright colored discs have a huge effect on speed of play during tournaments just as glow discs make playing at night a lot faster.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:25 PM
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Seriously, color pigment affecting the disc's stability ain't happening. Almost everything else can though. We all know the usual culprits...
The Earth's magnetic field?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:28 PM
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A 172 green and a 172 red are both 172. The minute difference in density will be unnoticable to the average thrower. If I dye a white disc red will it become more stable? I dont think so. If a disc is half red and half blue will it wobble?
Which is heavier, a ton of bowling balls or a ton of feathers?



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Old 12-11-2012, 05:28 PM
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A 172 green and a 172 red are both 172. The minute difference in density will be unnoticable to the average thrower. If I dye a white disc red will it become more stable? I dont think so. If a disc is half red and half blue will it wobble?
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that he just claimed that a red disc will weight more than a disc of any other color of the same weight. Either that or he's saying that it's obvious that anything with iron in it will have a lower volume, which doesn't make any more sense.

It's all just differences in shape. Apoth has it right.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:35 PM
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Imo, if red and variants of red have iron in them, they would absolutely be more dense. So im not sure how much of a theory it actually is, since its true (not sure if 100% of the colorants used out there have iron in their red so i cant commit to that), if you take something that has iron and something that has no iron, stands to reason one would be heavier or more dense right? Whether or not the average person would notice isnt the point really, its that if its true it would almost certainly have some effect on flight.
So, the almost imperceptible density of iron oxide as a microscopic particle in red coloring agents is going to change a disc's stability when you have any number of proactive causes, such as differing plastics(density, rigidity, drag coefficient), amount of dome, PLH, etc, etc? But let's focus on coloring agents instead?

Oh well, this is headed for the ether, so I'm out.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:03 PM
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this topic has got to be the biggest urban legend of disc golf.

It can probably be traced back to specific runs of gateway putters, when certain batches that were more desirable than others had specific color(s).
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:12 PM
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it predates gateway by quite a bit... dark colors in the early cyclones tended to be more overstable than light. green cyclones were the shizz back then.

i also thought the early red star plastic tended to be more overstable than other colors.

imo it actually makes sense... each pigment has a different composition which can have an effect on how the plastic molds up. whether or not the effect is sufficient to notice is another matter entirely.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:10 PM
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The Earth's magnetic field?
Ah! That's where the iron heavy red dye comes into effect!
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:36 PM
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I'll never look at a red disc the same again. Green or blue should fine though, copper is used in both those colors...copper weighs less than iron, should make them at tad less stable. Forget about the production run, weight, dome, PLH, and that one's a Roadrunner and the other's a Wraith. Damn overstable colors!

Thanks, kid, for starting this deep subject! You actually uncovered some believers.
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