Roc OAT problem

[Drakeab]

I feel pretty comfortable throwing my buzzz at full speed, but every time I try to throw any kind of roc, it goes horribly wrong. Most of the time, it comes out wobbling and sounding like a whirlwind coming out of my hand, turning right very quickly. Every now and then I get one out on my hand clean and it flies beautifully. Any ideas on how to get some consistency here?

Thanks!

[mashnut]

Slow your throw down and make sure that your hips and shoulders are aligned on the plane you're trying to throw. It can help to start with a neutral putter and learn to throw that cleanly without flutter, especially working on hyzers that don't flip up at all with a pretty flippy putter or mid. If you can do that, it will transfer to your throws with other discs including the roc.

[Drakeab]

My summit, wizards, and magic all come out well... I don't think any of them are too floppy though, are they?

[Menacewarf]

I use a 150 dx aero as a utility disc but it is also great to test your hyzers like Mashnut says. Plus you can find one for 6 or 7 bucks new

[kaiser flippin]

pre-throw, check the alignment in your hand, make sure everything is straight. rocs feel different than buzzzes, so you have to throw accordingly.

[mashnut]

Originally Posted by Drakeab

My summit, wizards, and magic all come out well... I don't think any of them are too floppy though, are they?

Magic or summit are great for working on that, and a beat wizard is fine. Can you throw those on a hyzer line without them flipping up or flattening out at all? If so, it sounds like maybe you're doing something different with the roc, like a different grip or just trying to muscle it too much.

[Billym]

Are you running up? Throw standing still see what happens. Lose all the extra movement concentrate on the actual throw itself. Use on step forward if you must.

[Drakeab]

I'll definitely look into an aero! Thanks!

If I throw them on a hyzer, they flatten out, but don't turn over. I thought that's what was supposed to happen...

And I do run up... I'll try simplifying as well!

[Dan Ensor]

Flip shots should flip from hyzer, to flat, to anhyzer. They don't always flip all the way to anhyzer, but if you can't get them to flip to anhyzer, you may have nose angle issues.

[mashnut]

Originally Posted by Drakeab

I'll definitely look into an aero! Thanks!

If I throw them on a hyzer, they flatten out, but don't turn over. I thought that's what was supposed to happen...

And I do run up... I'll try simplifying as well!

Go to a field and start with short hyzers, only 100' or so. You should pretty easily be able to make them go that far without flattening out at all. Slowly push that distance out, it's possible to throw them a long way without that hyzer flipping up at all, and learning to control that will serve you well.