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Old 01-30-2013, 10:13 AM
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I was really hoping this thing would be a zero turn driver. Even after reading ZJ and ZAM's reviews, I held out hope. However, after seeing Mike video, I can't deny it. Bummer.
Remember a long time ago, when i was sayin that the gyro makes high speed overstability really hard to do?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:20 AM
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It honestly isn't the gyro

The shock isn't shaped to be a zero turn driver

It has a flat wing, rounded nose, with a high PL.

I think when MVP actually tries to build a zero turn driver you will eat your words. And I say this as someone that has felt tens of thousands of discs, not as a fan boy.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:29 AM
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It honestly isn't the gyro

The shock isn't shaped to be a zero turn driver

It has a flat wing, rounded nose, with a high PL.

I think when MVP actually tries to build a zero turn driver you will eat your words. And I say this as someone that has felt tens of thousands of discs, not as a fan boy.
I said that they wouldnt be able to make a truly overstable disc, not that they couldnt make a zero turn driver. I also said that the gyro is the reason it will be hard to do. I could imagine something Avenger-esque maybe in the small wing yet high speed stable department, but i really dont think they will get much more high speed stable than that.
It wasnt meant to be a negative comment toward mvp specifically, more of a response to the people that are asking them for it. But honestly, if they find a way, i wont be petty and pick it apart and make it seem like thats not tthe same kind of disc i was describing, ill own it. I wish they would make a firebird type disc, aside from high speed stuff thats really all theyre missing. I just have my doubts that they can do it, AND use the gyro tech the same way as the other discs.

Also, i dont just call people fanboy lol, only the people its applicable to. Now, if this were a Mill thread...

You be at AWDC?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:32 AM
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^fyi mike c has a cannon. Just sayin'
......which is why I know they will turn for me.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:34 AM
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I just want a disc from manufacturer, I don't care who, that will replace my 11x Teebirds. I'm so tired of trying to find them, and pay out my nose for them.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:35 AM
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I just want a disc from manufacturer, I don't care who, that will replace my 11x Teebirds. I'm so tired of trying to find them, and pay out my nose for them.
The new runs/totems are pretty nice
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:37 AM
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The new runs/totems are pretty nice
The Totems are over-priced. Is there someway of telling one of the new runs from the crap?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:38 AM
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Maybe a rival? Nvm may turn too much if you have power.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:40 AM
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Maybe a rival? Nvm may turn too much if you have power.
I just got one that is sitting in my truck. Haven't thrown it yet, but I was reading the reviews on here, and it sounds like it has some turn to it. I know I will eventually find a suitable replacement. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 AM
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^the new run totems are the same as some of the new run regular teebirds. You may be able to find a stock stamped one that is like the totems. They didn't do a special run on the totem just stock discs.
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