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Old 07-02-2012, 11:18 AM
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How is that supposed to help?
Well, it was supposed to show how the foot work and follow-through go.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:46 PM
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The arm should never completely extend. You should "punch the disc out" with a sudden direction change (of the arm/hand). If your elbow is locked, you'd have to unlock it before the direction change and you'd be decelerating very close to the hit.


I have a couple questions of my own.

How does the right pec drill differ from the closed shoulder snap drill?

I can't get my elbow as high as Beato's seems to be; is that critical, or should I just have it at a comfortable height?

Are there vids/pics of drills that start closer to the hit? It's called "working the hit backwards" but the hit is only the last 10% or so. I've tried working on it on my own, but my body positions are not right.

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:23 PM
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How does the right pec drill differ from the closed shoulder snap drill?
The closed shoulder drill teaches you to not be robotic in your movements. That each preceding motion should be accelerating the next. It can teach you not to strong arm the right pec and to flow through the motions correctly.

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I can't get my elbow as high as Beato's seems to be; is that critical, or should I just have it at a comfortable height?
You don't have to hold it as high as beto. Play around with different pull heights to see what fits your body best.

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Are there vids/pics of drills that start closer to the hit? It's called "working the hit backwards" but the hit is only the last 10% or so. I've tried working on it on my own, but my body positions are not right.
The hammer pound drills will give you the feeling of what a good hit feels like.

You aren't trying to throw like this, just get the feeling by going through the motions slowly:

1. Get really comfortable with the hammer pounds.
2. Eliminate any reachback or body rotations for now.
3. Try to get the hammer pound feeling when you do the right pec drill.
4. Blake's rail pictures are good for fine tuning and understanding.

Rinse and repeat as needed. This stuff can take a while(years) to get down.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:57 PM
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The closed shoulder drill teaches you to not be robotic in your movements. That each preceding motion should be accelerating the next. It can teach you not to strong arm the right pec and to flow through the motions correctly.


The hammer pound drills will give you the feeling of what a good hit feels like.

You aren't trying to throw like this, just get the feeling by going through the motions slowly:

1. Get really comfortable with the hammer pounds.
2. Eliminate any reachback or body rotations for now.
3. Try to get the hammer pound feeling when you do the right pec drill.
4. Blake's rail pictures are good for fine tuning and understanding.

Rinse and repeat as needed. This stuff can take a while(years) to get down.
If you don't have a multi-piece throw, should the right pec and closed shoulder drills feel the same?

Hammer pound is fine, but it only focuses on the arm. I was hoping for something more full-body.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:33 PM
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If you don't have a multi-piece throw, should the right pec and closed shoulder drills feel the same?
Yes.
If you:

1. Start the pull at the right pec. ( or mid-line of your torso if pulling lower)
2. Aren't rushing your shoulders or strong arming the right pec drill.

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Hammer pound is fine, but it only focuses on the arm. I was hoping for something more full-body.
That's the whole thing. You want any body motions you add to make the hammer pound stronger.

You have to experiment.

So, you have the hammer pound. Add some shoulder rotation. If the way you add shoulder rotation makes the pound stronger, keep it, else find another way that will. Same for hip rotation, run-up, etc.

The hammer pound feeling is the hit.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:39 PM
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Links to hammer pound drill vids please. I only saw Blake's 9 second vid on youtube. Unless that's all i need. Thanks again.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:22 PM
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The complete drill with instruction.

http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums...hp?f=2&t=19220
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:49 PM
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Thanks bud.
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