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Old 04-09-2013, 09:46 AM
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Kind of confused me too. I seriously hope no one did some low leval hacking to bomb the site with roc votes but I really doubt anyone would go through that kind of trouble. I think it's about all the different forms of Roc, the recent ROC3 thing, and just that roc has just been around longer.

The weird part also is Buzzz jumped out to a decent little lead and then during the day yesterday Roc just crushed.
Of course any online survey is hackable since there really isn't a concise way to prevent multiple voting (even with IPs, which has other side effects). Buzzz only got 47 votes? In the final four, Buzzz got 119 votes when pitted against the almighty Teebird. That would indicate that there are a significant number of golfers who throw both Roc and Buzzz, but prefer Roc overall. I'm definitely of the opinion that they are two different flight patterns that can be in a bag without overlap. However, I don't think it is common to carry both discs. Perhaps since the championship was a short voting time it resulted in fewer Buzzz votes. However, that apparently didn't squelch Roc enthusiasts. In fact, if you add up Roc and Buzzz votes (291) from the final four it is less than the number of votes Roc got in the championship (311). Curious, at best.

In other news, you mentioned the prizes for 1-6th in your previous post, however you listed 7 winners.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:52 AM
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I decided to give second place the choice of anything including what 1st doesn't pick. So the 7th disc is either the comet or rhyno. I really hope the survey want tampered with that would bum me out. Not much I can do except maybe dig around on that site a bit and see if a ton of votes came in a very short period.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:01 AM
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. What a headache. Your right Bac. Someone did bomb the site. I don't know how the site let it happen but a ton of the votes are all the same IP adress. I guess all I can do now is spend the next hour or two deleting all of the responses from that IP adress. Sorry I didn't catch this sooner and shame on who would do that

You try and do something nice...

Stay tuned for revised results.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:29 AM
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Well even though survey monkey let this happen and I'm dissapointed in that it did let me filter by IP adress. We had 224 roc votes come in from just two ip addresses. I guess I was just being naive. Thanks for helping me catch this. 311-224 votes = 87 actual votes for roc. Im going to continue to look through the ip addresses for duplicates so I can try to keep this from being a total sham. Blah
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:55 AM
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Well even though survey monkey let this happen and I'm dissapointed in that it did let me filter by IP adress. We had 224 roc votes come in from just two ip addresses. I guess I was just being naive. Thanks for helping me catch this. 311-224 votes = 87 actual votes for roc. Im going to continue to look through the ip addresses for duplicates so I can try to keep this from being a total sham. Blah
Really? You have people doing something nice for you and someone (2 people) decided to cheat At least it looks like it won't change the final, it is 87-47 now? That sounds better, I thought Roc would win but more like 60%-40%.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:11 AM
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Yup hyzer those are the totals as far as I can tell. I can't find any other IP duplicates although I'm skeptical in general now. The only thing that makes me feel a bit better is that when I googled those IP addresses they are both related to a proxy surver, a tool used by those up to no good on the Internet. So it was likely only one person and they probably could have defeated whatever method I used for the survey.

I agree though, I'm really glad it didn't change the overall result and make me really put my foot in my mouth. I don't even want to strt looking at the past rounds surveys to see if they were hacked too but I might feel obligated too.

The worst part is I had to start paying overages on survey monkey for going over 1000 responses in the month and it was solely thanks to the hacker.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:04 PM
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Question: How could this cheaters NOT BE one of the winners?


Clearly someone was voting roc so that their bracket would win. Seriously, why else would it have happened?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:15 PM
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Question: How could this cheaters NOT BE one of the winners?


Clearly someone was voting roc so that their bracket would win. Seriously, why else would it have happened?
I hear you. Not really sure how to deal with it though. It would be unfair to punish everyone though because of one cheater. It's a tough situation.

The only other possibility is that ive been trolled pretty hard on here by two users the last month or two and I wouldn't rule either one of them just messing with me out either. It's a little far fetched but the only other thing I can think of.

I reported it to the surveymonkey admins also so maybe they have some counter hacking techniques to figure out who it was. I doubt it though.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:16 PM
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What a shame. Sorry some doorknobs had to ruin it for you Menace.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:21 PM
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I placed 4th and it wasn't me. Pretty bad it had to end in controversy like this, it was fun watching the brackets when I actually remembered it was going on and I hope you or someone else does this again
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