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Old 08-14-2013, 01:22 PM
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There en-lies the problem. Open divisions are usually closely rated players (depends on the region to the ratings). Adv divisions are people that range from 935 to 1000. It's not truly "open" as it's not open to specific players that have cashed. The 970 and below clause was put in place to avoid MA1 players bagging, but here in Charlotte, with the talent level high in the Am pool, that rating would need to be higher to be effective.
Technically, MA1 is not 'open' to players registered as Pro *and* rated above 970..

Also, realistically the Open division at large PDGA events is just as broad as the MA1 division *can be*. For a NT-level event, you have players ~970 all the way up through 1045+, or a total spread of 75. (i.e. the equivalent of 1000-925).

Plus, I have yet to see an MA1 division that actually looks like 1000-930, ever. If the event is high tier, it looks like what I described above. If the event is small, a heck of a lot of those 950+ players are likely 'playing up', meaning your MA1 division is more realistically 890-950, or only a ~60 point spread.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:58 AM
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http://www.pdga.com/faq/ratings/when-updated

Ratings are now updated at least 10 times per year. For 2013 events, ratings are scheduled to be updated on March 26th, April 23rd, May 21st, July 2nd, August 13th, October 1, October 22nd, November 19th and December 17th with the 2013 yearend update on January 28th, 2014 with any corrections in early February as needed.

when is the next update? is there seriously two updates in oct???
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:45 AM
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Playing your rating isn't bagging. I can't stand when people give people crap for this.
I agree that playing a division that is permitted by your rating, while actually performing at a higher level, but not moving up until your rating catches up to your new skill level, is not bagging. In that sense, playing your rating isn't bagging.

However, committing ratings manipulation to lower one's rating, or prevent it from rising, and then playing in the lower division as permitted according to that manipulated rating, is the very definition of bagging. In that sense, playing your rating is bagging.

Of course, most people don't use the word "bagger" properly, which I believe was your point. And I agree. But I do wish that ratings would track players' actual skill levels more accurately, and not be held down by year old round ratings. Others, however, feel that it is a just reward for players who improve to let them dominate the lower division for a while, without forcing them to move up as soon as they start winning the lower division. The accusations of "bagger" by other players are usually just peer pressure to get those recently improved players to move up.
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:17 PM
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There en-lies the problem.
Should be "there-in lies the problem". Not trying to be a dick or drift. Carry on
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:20 PM
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Should be "there-in lies the problem". Not trying to be a dick or drift. Carry on
Should be "therein lies the problem."
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:55 PM
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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I don't have a rating but I'm probably around 1100+. Should I play in a Rec division to start with?
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:10 PM
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^^Yes, play Rec. That's where all of the world's best disc golfers should start.
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:21 PM
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^^Yes, play Rec. That's where all of the world's best disc golfers should start.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:00 PM
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Maybe I'll slip in a quick ratings question here, instead of opening a new thread.

Results for an Aug 24 tournament just recently showed up on the PDGA web site. Maybe they were mailed in, instead of filed electronically?

http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/102073

Anyway, my real question: they have no round ratings.

Do we only get preliminary round ratings if the TD files the results electronically? If they're mailed in, do I have to wait for "official" ratings? Perhaps at the time of the next PDGA update?
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