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Old 03-05-2014, 05:12 PM
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While I agree baskets should be smaller, I can't imagine de-standerizing every basket on the planet used in PDGA events is going to happen. Beyond the costs of it, the parks will view it as unnecesary work.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:14 PM
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I read "bacon" and came running. Turns out it's someone's name. Could not be more disappointed.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:15 PM
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On a more serious note - I agree with the sentiment. However I disagree that all games are meant to become sports. Disc golf is probably not destined to become a mainstream "sport".
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:15 PM
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Randy Michael Signor and others before him think we need smaller baskets to move us into sports world. Currently disc golf is a game and not a sport. I think we could look at baskets like the Gateway Bullseye Basket. I also think baskets should be set at the height of the strike zone in baseball. Consistency. Which leads us to the human factor which exists in most sports but not in the game of DG. I stand 6 feet tall which is 2 yards not 2 meters. Measured from center of my chest to tip of fingers when arm is stretched out parallel to floor is one yard not one meter. It is one yard measured from my foot heal to my hip. And my foot is a foot long with shoes on. Metric measurements were institutionalized to attract world players who currently use United States Standard Measurement when playing ball golf. DG holes and courses are measured in feet and yards. Which is one reason I was always against the 2 meter rule (I have other reasons also). I believe if we have a disc bag limit and smaller baskets like the bullseye basket with consistent height measurements, as well as the elimination of the jump putt we could move in the direction of a respectable sport. 72 par courses not 54 par's with at least white and blue tee boxes. Also pros support their tournaments without siphoning money from amateurs. Jump putts were illegal with everyone I played with for at least a decade until the PDGA allowed it. Your feet should be on ground when disc is released.
Two thoughts come to mind when I read this.

1. We really need to be beefing up efforts in schools about how to use paragraphs.
2. No matter how much concrete evidence you give some folks about why disc golf, its rules, its equipment, its culture is in the state that it is, (and that such its really a good thing for the great majority of us), some folks will just keep plodding along with these same tired arguments, over and over and over, as if they say it at the right time, on the right day, it will be accepted as gospel truth. Never mind the fact that it hasn't worked the 10,000 previous times such was stated.

So I guess were going to mull this same crap over again for time #10,001.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:18 PM
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While I agree baskets should be smaller, I can't imagine de-standerizing every basket on the planet used in PDGA events is going to happen. Beyond the costs of it, the parks will view it as unnecesary work.
And 95% of the people who use those courses don't want such changes made.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:26 PM
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Randy Michael Signor and others before him think we need smaller baskets to move us into sports world. Currently disc golf is a game and not a sport. I think we could look at baskets like the Gateway Bullseye Basket. I also think baskets should be set at the height of the strike zone in baseball. Consistency. Which leads us to the human factor which exists in most sports but not in the game of DG. I stand 6 feet tall which is 2 yards not 2 meters. Measured from center of my chest to tip of fingers when arm is stretched out parallel to floor is one yard not one meter. It is one yard measured from my foot heal to my hip. And my foot is a foot long with shoes on. Metric measurements were institutionalized to attract world players who currently use United States Standard Measurement when playing ball golf. DG holes and courses are measured in feet and yards. Which is one reason I was always against the 2 meter rule (I have other reasons also). I believe if we have a disc bag limit and smaller baskets like the bullseye basket with consistent height measurements, as well as the elimination of the jump putt we could move in the direction of a respectable sport. 72 par courses not 54 par's with at least white and blue tee boxes. Also pros support their tournaments without siphoning money from amateurs. Jump putts were illegal with everyone I played with for at least a decade until the PDGA allowed it. Your feet should be on ground when disc is released.
I guess I have a question...are you just going to come here and flame out, or are you actually interested in an actual conversation?
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:29 PM
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Jump putts were illegal with everyone I played with for at least a decade until the PDGA allowed it. Your feet should be on ground when disc is released.
I'm going to have to agree with Scarpfish.. some use of paragraphs would help the coherency of your arguments.

As for "jump putts", you seem to be saying that you don't like the "walking putt". For reference, the walking putt involves having one foot hovering in the air beyond your marker, and it doesn't hit the ground until after the moment of disc release. Does this mean you don't have an issue with the actual "jump putt", where both feet are on the ground at the moment of release, but the forward momentum of the putting motion subsequently shifts/launches your body forward? Also, why does having both feet on the ground matter at all? You don't have both feet on the tee pad when you release your drive..

Honestly, I don't understand the logic of about two thirds of your post at all. I mean, I see the words, but meaning eludes me.

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Old 03-05-2014, 05:33 PM
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I think I'm kind of past the whole "grow the game" phase. Let's just keep throwing plastic at metal cages. Whatever happens will happen.
This x1000. I personally could not care less if DG were ever considered a "serious sport". As long as there are courses to play, and cool folks to play with, who cares?

But what do I know? I'm just a casual player, looking to have fun. I support the game/sport by buying plastic and by encouraging new players to take it up for fun. If that eventually leads to a groundswell that "legitimizes" the game/sport I guess that would be ok.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:37 PM
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I agree with the smaller baskets...but disagree with everything else.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:37 PM
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Randy Michael Signor and others before him think we need smaller baskets to move us into sports world. Currently disc golf is a game and not a sport. I think we could look at baskets like the Gateway Bullseye Basket. I also think baskets should be set at the height of the strike zone in baseball. Consistency. Which leads us to the human factor which exists in most sports but not in the game of DG. I stand 6 feet tall which is 2 yards not 2 meters. Measured from center of my chest to tip of fingers when arm is stretched out parallel to floor is one yard not one meter. It is one yard measured from my foot heal to my hip. And my foot is a foot long with shoes on. Metric measurements were institutionalized to attract world players who currently use United States Standard Measurement when playing ball golf. DG holes and courses are measured in feet and yards. Which is one reason I was always against the 2 meter rule (I have other reasons also). I believe if we have a disc bag limit and smaller baskets like the bullseye basket with consistent height measurements, as well as the elimination of the jump putt we could move in the direction of a respectable sport. 72 par courses not 54 par's with at least white and blue tee boxes. Also pros support their tournaments without siphoning money from amateurs. Jump putts were illegal with everyone I played with for at least a decade until the PDGA allowed it. Your feet should be on ground when disc is released.

The strikezone in baseball is different for each person depending on their height. Are you going to have baskets that adjust their size?
So much for consistency
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