Disc Golf Course Review How to accurately determine distance from tee to pin
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#11
04-03-2014, 12:08 AM
 Aim For The Chains Plastic Counselor Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: MINNESOTA Years Playing: 6.3 Courses Played: 103 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 6,786
like I said.. why cant they just put it like me?

Measure the intended line to the basket.

Must be a bunch of lawyers at the PDGA
#12
04-03-2014, 12:14 AM
 onemilemore * Ace Member * Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Marcos, CA Years Playing: 3.6 Courses Played: 24 Throwing Style: LHBH Posts: 4,671
So let's say you have a hole with a field shot off the tee that leads to a steep hill, with the basket being at the top of the hill. There is a reasonable landing zone at the bottom of the hill. (I tried to diagram this, but the formatting wouldn't let me. But the shape of the hole is basically ___^ with the basket at the top of the point.) A good drive gets you to about the bottom of the hill, maybe a bit higher.

Do you use a range finder to go straight from tee to basket, or would this be measured like a dogleg hole, but vertical? Personally I would go with the dogleg type of measurement, but I am curious if others agree.

Last edited by onemilemore; 04-03-2014 at 12:17 AM.
#13
04-03-2014, 12:22 AM
 Cgkdisc .:Hall of Fame Member:. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Twin Cities Years Playing: 25.5 Courses Played: 586 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 7,692
You still measure the direct length. The Effective Length is longer due to elevation regardless whether the hill is at the end of the fairway or the terrain gradually increases to that same basket height over the same length.
#14
04-03-2014, 12:24 AM
 onemilemore * Ace Member * Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Marcos, CA Years Playing: 3.6 Courses Played: 24 Throwing Style: LHBH Posts: 4,671
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Cgkdisc You still measure the direct length. The Effective Length is longer due to elevation regardless whether the hill is at the end of the fairway or the terrain gradually increases to that same basket height over the same length.
That makes sense and is probably something I should have realized. I'll blame it on...it being kinda late?
#15
04-03-2014, 12:43 AM
 scarpfish Resident Grouch Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brownbackistan Years Playing: 11.2 Courses Played: 315 Posts: 6,329
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Cgkdisc You still measure the direct length. The Effective Length is longer due to elevation regardless whether the hill is at the end of the fairway or the terrain gradually increases to that same basket height over the same length.
What if the hole is long enough and the hill high enough where a few big arm players might get it on the hill, others might get it to the base of the hill, and some might not even get it to the base, but might be able to still reach the circle in two throws? Like say this...

To me, measuring the direct line in said instance, doesn't make the most sense, just as measuring across water that most players won't go over (but a few can) doesn't make sense.
#16
04-03-2014, 02:05 AM
 4th Rock Par Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: East Texas Years Playing: 2.7 Courses Played: 10 Throwing Style: RHFH Posts: 148
I intend one evening to get my GPS out there are accurately mark all the boxes and baskets so I can make a decent GIS map of the course.

You could also use one of those measuring wheels that surveyors use, or just have a length of rope and paint a line at every unit of distance ( meter, feet, etc).
#17
04-03-2014, 02:15 AM
 Mabuku1 Double Eagle Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: whittier, CA Years Playing: 3.3 Courses Played: 20 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 1,099
I have a really good laser rangefinder. It works so perfect. Measures set to feet. If you can get one go for it, but I rarely use mine, it's just in my bag.
#18
04-03-2014, 05:49 AM
 joecoin Eagle Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: North Central Ohio Years Playing: 1.3 Courses Played: 32 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 626
Quote:
 Originally Posted by scarpfish What if the hole is long enough and the hill high enough where a few big arm players might get it on the hill, others might get it to the base of the hill, and some might not even get it to the base, but might be able to still reach the circle in two throws? Like say this... To me, measuring the direct line in said instance, doesn't make the most sense, just as measuring across water that most players won't go over (but a few can) doesn't make sense.
I suppose a proper tee sign would have a graphic representation of each route with their respective distances noted.

Or develop an app for your phone that lets you plot your throws.
#19
04-03-2014, 08:04 AM
 Cgkdisc .:Hall of Fame Member:. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Twin Cities Years Playing: 25.5 Courses Played: 586 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 7,692
Quote:
 Originally Posted by scarpfish What if the hole is long enough and the hill high enough where a few big arm players might get it on the hill, others might get it to the base of the hill, and some might not even get it to the base, but might be able to still reach the circle in two throws? Like say this... To me, measuring the direct line in said instance, doesn't make the most sense, just as measuring across water that most players won't go over (but a few can) doesn't make sense.
The measurement should take into account the intended skill level of the hole. If majority of players in the skill level would be expected to reach the pin, then measure straight line. If it's beyond a reachable hole for a skill level, then first measure to their landing area then up to the pin. This is even more dramatic when the hole traverses a ravine where at 325 feet tee-to-pin for gold level might be 375 for Red level players who have to throw to the bottom of the valley and back up.

#20
04-03-2014, 08:25 AM
 KniceZ Eagle Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: King George VA Years Playing: 3.6 Courses Played: 54 Throwing Style: RHBH Posts: 861
This is a little off the main topic but it's one of my pet peefs with tee signs. How accurately do you think tee signs should list the distance - rounded to 5 or 10 ft or to the foot? Does it really mater if it's 358' or 360'?

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