Hyzer Putting vs. Overstable Putters

[garublador]

Originally Posted by zensuit

But if you want to go for putts everytime and not sweat the misses NOTHING works as well as a Blowfly. You miss and it goes splat.

And that's the problem with the Blowfly, while it doesn't move much once it hits the ground, it also makes it way too easy to miss.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a Wizard pretty overstable?

Yeah, it's along the lines of a BB Aviar or Challenger like sidewinder22 said. The reason I choose something like the Wizard over the Rhyno is because you get the same predictability with less likelyhood of coming up short or the disc fading too early. In other words the "sweet spot" of how much power you put on your putt is smaller with a Rhyno than with a Wizard.

Really, the issues with what happens when you miss your putt will be solved with a decent pitch putt. A special putter isn't really needed.

[Midnightbiker]

For some reason, my brother can not putt straight, so he only hyzer putts. He uses a Soft Magnet, and he makes some really cool shots. He also has made some very longs putts as well.

[zensuit]

Originally Posted by garublador

And that's the problem with the Blowfly, while it doesn't move much once it hits the ground, it also makes it way too easy to miss.

Yeah, it's along the lines of a BB Aviar or Challenger like sidewinder22 said. The reason I choose something like the Wizard over the Rhyno is because you get the same predictability with less likelyhood of coming up short or the disc fading too early. In other words the "sweet spot" of how much power you put on your putt is smaller with a Rhyno than with a Wizard.

Really, the issues with what happens when you miss your putt will be solved with a decent pitch putt. A special putter isn't really needed.

Thanks for the info, cool way to explain it. I pitch putt inside of 25 feet. Truthfully, outside of that, the banger suits my fade.

[Jimb]

I just use my normal putting motion and aim for the right edge of the chains, instead of the center of the chains, if I'm over 30' away. That way I'm still throwing a straight putt and the disc does the work at the end. The the further away I get, the more I aim right. I also add an elevated angle to my longer putts as well. It seems to work OK for me. I actually made a 60 footer today in a practice round.

And I'm not saying that any of this is advice for anyone else. This is just what I do. My putting is improving, but isn't particularly good at this point. So if anyone reads this and thinks "that's why you don't putt really well" I'd be open to ideas.

[_.-Dut-._]

Originally Posted by zenbot

There's going to a difference if you're using an Aviar and releasing it hyzer in as opposed to throwing an overstable disc flat and letting it do it's thing.

I'm just curious if anybody's used both methods and if they have an opinion of the pros and cons.

A hyzer release should help eliminate misses to the right, a overstable putter thrown flat does not do this.

A hyzer angle tends to be less effected by headwind/taildwind.



^^ Those are the two reasons for the hyzer release, regardless of disc stability.

[DirtyMittenDG]

I just started puting more hyzer on my putt releases. It seems like my putting has improved alot from this (or maybe thats because I switched from a star aviar to a soft magnet? jk). I also found that hyzer putts dont hurt you as much when you miss.

[zenbot]

I just thought of a great idea. I'll just stop missing putts.

Bingo. Problem solved.


Seriously, though, thanks for everybody's input. Even though there's a million ways to make the same shot or a million opinions on plastic it's still good to hear everybody's approach to the game.

[Jimb]

Originally Posted by Jimb

I just use my normal putting motion and aim for the right edge of the chains, instead of the center of the chains, if I'm over 30' away. That way I'm still throwing a straight putt and the disc does the work at the end. The the further away I get, the more I aim right. I also add an elevated angle to my longer putts as well. It seems to work OK for me. I actually made a 60 footer today in a practice round.

And I'm not saying that any of this is advice for anyone else. This is just what I do. My putting is improving, but isn't particularly good at this point. So if anyone reads this and thinks "that's why you don't putt really well" I'd be open to ideas.

Forgot to mention that I putt with a 175g DX Aviar P & A.

[dpennycuff]

A friend of mine uses a rhyno and only performs hyzer putts; however, I do believe his putting has suffered, because he uses a big sweeping hyzer, which causes his shots to have to be near perfect to hit. When they miss they tend to roll too far due to the steep angle of his hyzer.

I use a pro d magnet, and release flat and straight. It has little glide, so misses do not fly past the basket much or roll far. As I get farther away from the basket I use the same motion, use a hyzer release and put more power behind the throw. It's kind of like a hyzer flip putt. My putts have started to make straighter runs at the basket, and I am getting closer and closer to having a dependable putt past 30 feet. I also practice putting into a box in my garage on a regular basis, which has done more for my putting than any magical putter ever has.

[Hamilton]

what i love about my wizard is that i can get it to go straight for a long while (dependent on spin), and it will predictably fade at the end, making consistent putting much easier...my magnet is almost as good, and the aviar p&a that i have is much harder to control...

i never could get the hang of putting much hyzer on a put and still be accurate...