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Old 04-21-2014, 01:24 PM
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I've asked about what to do with the off hand and most folks said they didn't even think about it. But it totally makes sense - ice skaters bring their arms in to spin faster. And for the engineers out there - it reduces the moment of inertia.

Can you further explain :

Simon Lizotte said pulling that off arm in is key to distance. Avery gave that exact analogy of a figure skater spinning faster. Look at almost every pro. All of them pull that off arm in on the rotation.

Setting a release point. Choose the spot in the air in front of you where you want to release the disc. Focus on releasing the disc there.

When you release the disc your body should be more facing the basket, not still sideways with you shoulder pointing at the basket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kU...bACd4rq_FsH6gv

Pause it at 2:11. Look faceup (facing forward) he is at the basket. Right after release his chest is completely facing the target.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:04 PM
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Great thread, I've definitely seen improvement in my backhand since I started reading through. I remember one post about having your leading foot lead with the heel while moving into the pivot, and it is amazing how much further and more accurate I'm throwing a month later!

There's still work to do with keeping my shoulders back and really accelerating through the hit, but I've jumped from 300-320' to 350-400'+ here in the thin air of Colorado. Maybe I'll finally throw a video up here and try and up my goal to 450'!
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Old 04-21-2014, 08:16 PM
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When you release the disc your body should be more facing the basket, not still sideways with you shoulder pointing at the basket.
Well, that would seem to be a point of contention. Some are advocating for keeping the shoulder more closed to the basket. On the other hand, Lizotte is obviously a good thrower...
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:13 PM
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Well, that would seem to be a point of contention. Some are advocating for keeping the shoulder more closed to the basket. On the other hand, Lizotte is obviously a good thrower...
Look at any video of any pro. It's not really a point of contention.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:47 PM
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bfowler,

your conversational wit comes across as a bit of O.A.T.. You might want to work at a smoother release, hm?

It might be the case - you never know without asking - that I have actually looked at many a video of pro's throwing. And I would not say they are uniform in throwing technique.

It might be the case that other respondents in this thread have brought up this point of contention, as I called it. Like post #95:

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Ok, update.

Between all this stuff I've been throwing 330 like clockwork. And I'm just threw back to back shots out to 355 and 360. For some reason on my really long throws I'll yank them way right. Probably about 50-60 feet to the right of my target.

This thread has been so awesome I thought I'd ask here. Any tips?
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I have this same problem. You're forgetting the pause in the shoulder turn. You turn from your reachback until your shoulders are on line with your intended flight path. Stop them there until after release when your arm swing will force the rest of the shoulder turn.
There are also the numerous threads on closed shoulder drills, like this one:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...shoulder+drill

That's why i thought the idea of having the shoulders open to the target was contentious. not saying it is wrong, only that it seems to be at variance with what others are recommending.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:56 PM
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I think your chest has to be open at release, if you're doing it right. The hips propel the upper body/ shoulders forward which whips the lower arm.

On a personal level the timing is back and hot! I've lost my runup timing though. But I couldn't care less at this point. My timing feels perfect from a standstill and I feel allot more accurate even if I'm losing a little. Threw a star roadrunner 380 from a standstill on Sunday, and then again with a striker and escape.

Feels like the weight shift and speed is off when I add the runup. So maybe I'll just keep rolling with the standstill. Its easier to focus on throwing correctly when I'm slow.
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