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Old 05-06-2013, 05:05 PM
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Listen to this, don't listen to the "arm speed" stuff. The discs don't care how fast your "arm" moves. They go farther becasue you're throwing them faster. 400' with a Teebird is more "arm speed" (it's actually mostly transferring more energy to the disc, aka "snap") than most people generate.

Hmmm...then why did the current World Champ say this in regards to a question from a guy wanting to help his newb friend on what to focus on while first starting out?

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no high speed discs is good and tell him to watch video or people at the local course and dial down a form that works for him and then just throw throw throw. Increase arm speed and accurecy will come with the constant playing
I'm sure he doesn't know what he's talking about though...he can only throw 600'..
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:01 AM
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Hmmm...then why did the current World Champ say this in regards to a question from a guy wanting to help his newb friend on what to focus on while first starting out?



I'm sure he doesn't know what he's talking about though...he can only throw 600'..
He'd probably throw 700 if he didn't focus so much on arm speed... j/k

I think arm speed becomes the focus after you develop timing. If you try to increase arm speed with incorrect timing, you aren't going to throw any further.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:11 AM
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Right, finishing with arm speed is what counts. Most slow their arm down in the finish instead.
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:26 PM
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Right, finishing with arm speed is what counts. Most slow their arm down in the finish instead.
Right. It's part of timing. It's more about "arm acceleration" than speed. When you tell people to "increase arm speed" they try to make their whole arm move faster. If you aren't already "hitting it" that's not what you want to do.

Here's a quote from an article by Dave Dunipace:

http://www.discgolfreview.com/resour...esecrets.shtml

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Use your elbow. "Arm speed" comes from elbow motion rather than arm motion per se. For maximum acceleration through the snap use your elbow.
Having a slower "arm speed" but using your elbow and wrist as levers will get you way more distance than having a faster "arm speed."
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:56 PM
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There's a typo in the PMB quote, or it's not "parrallel" (I think that's the right word). It sounds like you're trying to make it say "Increase arm speed!" While what it looks to me like it says is "Increased arm speed happens when you throw a lot".
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:13 AM
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Hmmm...then why did the current World Champ say this in regards to a question from a guy wanting to help his newb friend on what to focus on while first starting out?

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no high speed discs is good and tell him to watch video or people at the local course and dial down a form that works for him and then just throw throw throw. Increase arm speed and accurecy will come with the constant playing
I'm sure he doesn't know what he's talking about though...he can only throw 600'..
In that quote he's suggesting that "arm speed" and accuracy will come with improved technique, not that you should focus on "arm speed" when trying to learn to throw.
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