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Old 07-24-2013, 01:08 AM
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The reason I asked was because it sounded like a small area. Not for sure of the town. But he later says its more of a rest and relaxation place. Do you really spend the extra money bringing in a high level designer if the course will only be played by a few? Vs having a local person take the time. It sounds like it would be more cost effective.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:26 AM
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I guess what I was trying to get at. Is not every course will be a 5. Some courses are doomed by design, some by location, some by lack of up keep or play. If the course will only be accessed by a few or small amounts do you fork over high design cost or do you go local with people who know the area? If you have the big budget that is awesome.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:50 AM
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I agree with both of these points. Depending on needs, inexperienced locals may be the best choice.

My point is that "average joe" is unlikely to design a great course. If a great course isn't the goal---and it need not be---the average joe has a better chance. You still have to hope he does a good job with safety, balance, and other aspects of course design.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:30 AM
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This is very true...some of the best designed courses I've seen are lil' pitch n' putts with limited terrain.
no doubt- the 2 most difficult designs i have done are quite likely the 2 lowest rated courses i have designed. hawk hollow on the other hand was one of the easiest.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:35 AM
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no doubt- the 2 most difficult designs i have done are quite likely the 2 lowest rated courses i have designed. hawk hollow on the other hand was one of the easiest.
The concept of people understanding what it takes to design a course, the hoops you have to go through sometimes and the limitations you have no control over is foreign to 99% of players.

What other courses have you done?
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:05 AM
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Dorey
Loriella
Betty Queen Center
Franklin Park (has since been bastardized into something i consider unsafe in an attempt to make a "championship" course there)
Golden Horseshoe (defunct- equipment moved to Hawk Hollow)
Hawk Hollow
2 holes at Gillies Creek

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Walnut Creek
New Quarter
Ace Run Ranch
Dahlgren (redesign)
a defunct private course in Goochland County which was never available to public play

advised to one degree or another on (this generally results in the designers ignoring most of your advice as soon as you leave the property):
Kiwanis
Greene County
Westover
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:19 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys, i made a decision, just depends on what the ghost ranch board wants
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