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Old 02-12-2014, 10:42 PM
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I like the signs that show the position of the basket along with major features in/around the fairway such as stream beds, islands of trees or large trees in or on the edge of the fairway. This info is especially useful on blind holes where I cannot see the basket from the tee pad area. I can judge distance pretty well but I cannot see threw trees over hills or around corners. Distances posted on signs is generally wrong anyway. To me it's more helpful to know that the fairway doglegs hard right at that big pine tree on the right than the total distance to the basket.
I agree, like a caddy book for Golf tournaments. I love when courses do this. I always take distances as approximations because, like everyone is saying, you don't know who decided or by what metric they measured. That said, I absolutely use posted distances when deciding my line. I like to think I can approximate whether the sign is at least ballpark accurate or not.
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:44 PM
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Anyone ever notice that every course listing on here has a hole info page? Anyone think that the distances on those pages might be useful to folks to get a feel for what the course might be like before they go play it in the real world? Anyone know how probably most of the hole distance numbers got onto those pages?

So yeah, I'd say they serve a purpose.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:11 PM
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^ I know the distances are off for my home course.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:14 PM
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Anyone ever notice that every course listing on here has a hole info page? Anyone think that the distances on those pages might be useful to folks to get a feel for what the course might be like before they go play it in the real world? Anyone know how probably most of the hole distance numbers got onto those pages?

So yeah, I'd say they serve a purpose.
For sure scarpfish. A course map, hole breakdown and directions to the course are printed off from DGCR and included in my trip package, before all road trips. The course map and hole breakdown go in my pocket to play. Hole distances help a ton on new courses. Gives ideas on how far other things than the hole are. as well. A hole that is listed at 420, but has a mando listed on a sign, without distance, can make disc decision easier.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:23 PM
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How often do you actually use the hole length when deciding what disc to throw? I don't think I've ever used a hole length to make me change my disc selection. I can tell where my discs are going to land and how far they will go so why should I use a length.
The only way I could see it helping is when the elevation is changing and there fore might play a little longer or shorter than it actually does but I've only seen a handful of signs that display that kind of info.
I've only been playing for about 15 minutes and my technique has yet to evolve to the level where seeing on the teepad what a hole measures actually matters. I can pretty much eyeball it based on what I know I can throw, so it's really just a matter of the feel of the moment rather than an objective measure of distance that comes into play when I decide what disc to use on a new, specific hole.

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Also, how should you measure the distance? Should it be absolute length or flight of the perfect shot. Should a hole that goes 300ft straight then dogleg 50ft right be 304ft(the length of the hypotenuse) or closer to 340(the length of the discs flight?
I heard the word "hypotenuse" a few times in school, but I really don't know what it means and I'm too lazy and ambivalent to look it up, but I'd say that a hole should be measured by the most logical points down the middle of the fairway on which the par number was based.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:27 PM
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Absolutely yes. Knowing distance is key to knowing what shot/disc to play. Can I reach it comfortably, or is it a stretch....... Ball golf ears like to lay up to a full wedge on approach. I like to lay up to a 220 thumber. I am blind in one eye, and having two eyes is part of your brains ability to estimate distance. So maybe that's why it's so important to me? If I am playing a lot and throwing consistent on a familiar course, it becomes more of a feel thing.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:29 PM
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On new courses I really need it. I think it is even more important when I am in a different area then what I am used to playing. I live in Idaho, and am used to playing there, when I went to Florida the first time my discs did very different things then I was used to. It was nice to see how far the pin was so I could judge what I could do with each disc.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:56 PM
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On my home course, I don't need it.

But on other courses, I always look at the distance before deciding what to throw. I know about how far I can throw each disc on different lines, so knowing with certainty how far away the pin is is really helpful in disc selection.

I also find that I struggle to accurately judge distance on my own, so trying to make those selections by sight alone often does not turn out well for me.
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Pretty much this. I can figure it out without hole lengths, but depth perception is sometimes tricky with different baskets installed at different heights with different kinds of foliage around. Having the hole lengths makes it a little easier to pick a disc the first time you throw a hole.
What they said.
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:23 AM
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I find I need hole lengths most often on more wide open holes. It can be hard to tell whether a water carry is 275' or 325', and that's a big difference. The more obstacles in play, the easier it is for me to gauge distance.

I also like it on tweener type shots. If a hole looks 250'-275', I'd like to pin that number down, since I'll be throwing a different disc at a 240' hole than a 280'. Sometimes it's easier or harder to tell by sight, depending on the surroundings, so having the number there takes away guess work and helps me choose my disc.
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:00 AM
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For a 1st time visitor to a course, marked hole distances help locate pins (especially if you don't have a course map). I've played several holes where you can see multiple (unmarked) baskets from the tee pad. Knowing you're throwing at the one 257' away off to your left is better than shooting for the one 400' feet straight ahead and finding you've driven to the wrong basket.
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