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Old Yesterday, 02:39 PM
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Ratings and Non-Playing Penalties

Ratings are supposed to be a descriptor of what level of golf you play. So why are penalties like cursing excessively or incorrectly adding a score card not excluded from round scores when rounds are rated?

If I'm thinking about this right, isn't this inflating everyone's rating?

980 guys shoots a 56. However, he threw his bag 5 times on the course, so he propogates a 60 as a 980 round ... ... ... doesn't seem right.
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There's already a good deal of variance in the ratings system. Just because player A in event XYZ shot a higher rating than player B in event JKL doesn't necessarily mean he shot a better round. The conditions, the course, and the ratings of the propagators all add in extra error to the system.

Compared to that error, the impact of non-playing penalties is extremely low.
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Ratings are supposed to be a descriptor of what level of golf you play. So why are penalties like cursing excessively or incorrectly adding a score card not excluded from round scores when rounds are rated?

If I'm thinking about this right, isn't this inflating everyone's rating?

980 guys shoots a 56. However, he threw his bag 5 times on the course, so he propogates a 60 as a 980 round ... ... ... doesn't seem right.
Seems fine to me. Control your temper. Learn how to add and subtract correctly. Are football players not penalized for their actions that don't relate to running the ball down field?

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Seems fine to me. Control your temper. Learn how to add and subtract correctly. Are football players not penalized for their actions that don't relate to running the ball down field?


Are you saying that I should go around the country making sure no one gets courtesy violations or scoring penalties? Sorry, I'm not THAT dedicated.
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The effect is miniscule.

The effect on that round's ratings are miniscule enough, but a player's overall rating is the result of multiple rounds, it's way down in the decimals.
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Ratings are supposed to be a descriptor of what level of golf you play. So why are penalties like cursing excessively or incorrectly adding a score card not excluded from round scores when rounds are rated?

If I'm thinking about this right, isn't this inflating everyone's rating?

980 guys shoots a 56. However, he threw his bag 5 times on the course, so he propogates a 60 as a 980 round ... ... ... doesn't seem right.
It depends on how the penalty is applied. The 888 code, for example, penalizes the players' rating, but doesn't factor into the rating system itself for future round (propagation) calculations. Other kinds of penalties, for example getting a 2-throw penalty for mis-playing a hole, would be included in the round score and thus rating, but in general these kinds of penalties are rare and mostly masked by other rounds that make up a players' rating.
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lol @ being penalized for cursing
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Chances are the round won't count anyways since he has 4 penalties plus the bad shots that caused him to throw his bag. I believe that when your score gets to high(~6 strokes over your rating) it now longer counts.

I could be wrong, where's Chuck? He'll know.
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Seems fine to me. Control your temper. Learn how to add and subtract correctly. Are football players not penalized for their actions that don't relate to running the ball down field?
Football players do get penalized but do the negative yards from a personal foul count negatively against their receiving/rushing yards?
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