Dilemma

[sidewinding]

Here's what Jesus said we should do:

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

[Adam Schneider]

Wait... so according to Jesus, if someone steals one of our discs, we should hold out our bags and say "take your pick"? No thanks.

[heelboycraig]

Originally Posted by sidewinding

Here's what Jesus said we should do:

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Using a passage from the Bible, especially one that doesn't apply to this situation, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The passage refers refers to not seaking revenge against those who have wronged you. It means you're going to go above and beyond the call of duty to show love to someone who hasn't shown it to you. Second, the passage refers to somebody doing wrong to you, not to you making the decision for someone else.

Basically, if Unkles decides it's not worth the hassle to make a big deal over his lost disc, that's his choice. If it were me, I'd approach the person, asking for my discs back. If they say no, I'd either see about trading with them, or just letting it go because I would have already treated the disc as lost. In most cases, if someone is confronted in a situation like this, they'll know they have someone else's property and give it back at little to no cost.

[Unkles27]

alright, so lots of good ideas on here.

I like the simple approach best, go out to Joe's, buy the guy a drink and ask him for the discs back. Obviously I should bring my friend along because they are his discs but I'm worried because my friend has an abrasive personality and I could see things getting a little heated.

Anyway, I'll give that a shot, I'm planning on playing a few rounds with those guys this weekend. I'll keep y'all posted

[garublador]

Originally Posted by sidewinding

Here's what Jesus said we should do:

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

So if you give the guy a tunic, let him spank you and walk two miles with him then you'll get your disc back.

[trifocal]

Originally Posted by Unkles27

I'll give that a shot,

Unkles... If your going to shoot the guy, can I have the other discs in his bag? I'll be your alibi.

[discflinger]

Originally Posted by garublador

So if you give the guy a tunic, let him spank you and walk two miles with him then you'll get your disc back.

Nice...

[blang]

If I saw a guy that had one of my friends discs, I would ask for it to be returned through me. If it was not returned I would at the very least refuse to continue the round with him. I would also post the description of the guy on the local disc golf forum letting everyone know what they would be dealing with. Most players would give him a hard time if he did not eventually return the disc and in all honesty one or two might physically threaten him. If this player continued to play our courses he would learn his lesson or be ostracized.

We have done it before and we have to this point assisted in creating more ethical players instead of enabling their bad behavior. We take disc thieving seriously and because of this everyone benefits.

[Donovan]

You know all this law stuff is absolutely true. However, I really don't see calling the police over a piece of plastic. I can't even imagine what the cops would think. But if you can live with the consequences that come with that disc from that course of action, so be it.

I do know that wanting to get people to do the right thing is wonderful and sharing it is the best thing for the sport. However, I don't think creating enemies and hatred will ever help our sport. Being ethical and doing the right thing is the way to be, but trying to force it down some idiots throat, will only cause them to become worse. Sometimes that is not the cancer you want to be spreading.

Just some random thoughts.

[blang]

Originally Posted by Donovan

I do know that wanting to get people to do the right thing is wonderful and sharing it is the best thing for the sport. However, I don't think creating enemies and hatred will ever help our sport. Being ethical and doing the right thing is the way to be, but trying to force it down some idiots throat, will only cause them to become worse. Sometimes that is not the cancer you want to be spreading.

History may tell us something different

Cattle Rustler

A professional in the West involved in the stealing of branded cattle and altering the brand. In the very early west, cattle rustling was almost accepted as a way to build up one's head of livestock which is how many a cattle rancher got his start

Stealing an unbranded calf not following it's mother was not even looked upon as rustling. But as the cattle barons decided it was hurting their pocketbook, cattle rustling began to be seen as a serious crime

There were two types of branding iron, the stamp iron which included the full brand and the running iron which had a hooked tip that could be used to change or make any brand

The running iron was a favorite tool of the cattle rustler. Latter being caught by a vigilante group with a running iron in one's possession could mean certain death by hanging if the law wasn't around.


The similarities between a cattle rustler and a disc thief beg to be compared...