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Old 11-04-2010, 12:57 PM
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What would be the benefit of dual plastic mids and drivers? Other than looking cool of course.
Many people think the number one reason of the overmold on the Ion is to grip chains...While that is definitely a great feature, the original idea was to use a heavier plastic on the outside of the disc to make it more gyroscopic. This was the same idea behind the creation of the Wizard--It has a fatter nose and thinner flight plate therefore distributing a greater percentage of the weight to the outer edge. The Ion takes this idea to the next level as the overmold allows even more weight distributed to the outer edge. This is also part of the reason why wide rimmed drivers have more distance potential--more weight on the outside.

In the Ion, this weight distribution allows for greater HSS while at the same time reducing the LSS. So this allows for better wind/torque resistance without adding LSS. It also keeps the disc spinning longer due to centrifugal force. You can experience by tying an object to the end of a string or rope and spinning it. The more weight on the outside, and the longer the string, the more force you will feel pulling outward.

So to answer your question, the overmold process could help a mid or driver to get a higher percentage of it's weight on the outer edge. This would help make them more HSS without being more LSS. Most HSS discs are very LSS because of the wing shape. The overmold also allows wing shapes that maximize glide (think roadrunner, Ion, other convex/straight wings) without the understability/squirreliness that goes along with the current versions of those designs that are not as gyroscopic.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:59 PM
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What would be the benefit of dual plastic mids and drivers? Other than looking cool of course.
There are several benefits designed into implementing our dual polymer disc(s). Firstly, for the chain grabbing grip. The grip really shines dramatically in rain/ice conditions as well. Not only for grip, but the different polymers are engineered with different densities as the overmolded rubber material is much heavier than the core polymer. This allows the disc to fly extremely gyroscopic and true. Meaning the disc will hold lines much longer and glide straighter as they maintain their spin longer. Spinning longer throughout the flight means less fade, allowing you to shape lines more accurately and longer.

~Chad

EDIT: Discspeed beat me to it going into much greater conceptual detail!

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:13 PM
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Wow! I knew about the chain gripping, but not the flight benefits. That's freaking exciting and now I can't wait to see what disc comes next.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:15 PM
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Here's the two newest Ions in my collection (great job Mike & Zack!):

I just love that Ferrari red...
Med or soft Ions?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:35 PM
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Here's the two newest Ions in my collection (great job Mike & Zack!):

I just love that Ferrari red...
... I need to get me another Ion.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:36 PM
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meh, i'd just wipe the stamp and dye it anyway.

i like that you can still buy the blanks
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:37 PM
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... and not give it to Peebody.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:38 PM
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:40 PM
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You just spend the money on pearly plastic, anyway.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:26 PM
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Man, if they make a mid just like the Ion only faster, I wll be all over it like a fat kid in a candy store! I already debate carrying my Ions to use as a mid range but they just are not quite long enough to be justified in my bag...or are theyyyy.......
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