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Old 08-12-2010, 12:50 PM
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Lightbulb The Swing Putt: Tips for Using Nikko Locastro's Putting Style

I've used a spin putt for a long time, simply because I could never get the hang of a push/loft putt. I always had trouble incorporating the necessary weight shift and wrist pop without losing consistency. So, while messing around in my back yard, I started playing around with Nikko's putting style. 3 weeks later, I've gotten consistent with it from inside the circle, and have started hitting some jumpers.
And while I'm no expert, I have gained some insights into the technique. So I figured I'd share them.


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Strengths (why would I want to try that?!)
+ Good for spin putters who've had trouble adopting the push/loft style. By straddling and bringing the putter between the legs, you effectively extend the potential length of the arm swing, which lessens the emphasis on weight shift or knee action.
+ The fewest moving parts of any putt = consistency
+ Low release allows for low-ceiling shots.
+ Straddle putt allows for putting around trees/obstacles
+ Early release lessens the chance that your feet leave the ground before the disc leaves your hand (foot fault)

Weaknesses
+ Low release creates issues in tall grass/rough
+ Hyzer angle opens the disc to wind issues

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Stance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_5ULC11y28
The stance is basically a straight-legged straddle putt. Widening the stance is necessary to allow the disc to pass between the legs without having to bend the knees.
Bend at the waist/core for balance (and power.)
For jump-putts, I personally narrow my stance and bend my knees, using the added spring to get the distance. I also bend at the waist/core more for the added power.

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Grip
I use a grip similar to the fan grip the Climo uses for push putts. I curl my index under the rim, and keep my middle and ring finger extended under the flight plate to pop the disc flatter at release.
Try different grips, and go with what works.

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Disc Angle

This is not a spike hyzer puttWhen done right, you never, even on jump putts, need to adjust your aim for the hyzer. By adding the wrist pop at release, as well as getting spin on the disc, you create a flight path similar to the stalled portion of a sweep hyzer when using an understable disc. The putter may fly on a hyzer angle, but there's virtually ZERO right-to-left movement.

Because you're bringing the disc between your legs, you'll naturally give the disc a lot of hyzer angle on the backswing. However, you won't be releasing the disc at this angle.
During my meditation/practice swing, I bring the putter back/down at whatever angle feels natural, but bring the disc up to flattish during the aiming portion.

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Aiming

Personally, I use a straight back, straight up motion on my aiming, "painting the basket" the whole way.
I pick a chain link one notch to the right of the pole, and a few inches above the basket's rim, and aim for that.

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Swing/Release

While you're trying your first few putts at this style, release the putt earlier than feels natural. When done right, the release point is somewhere near the knee on short and medium distance putts, and somewhere around the thigh on long distance putts. Worry not, the disc will rise during its flight. The swing putt is not as much a putt, so much as it is a lob.

As mentioned before, this style doesn't work unless you pop the putt to a flatter angle at the point of release. Use the fingers under the flight plate to pop the disc. This gives the disc its straight (stalled) flight path, as well as giving it additional height.

As your distance from the basket increases, increase the amount of this disc-flattening pop. For jumpers, I personally pop the disc to completely flat. Again, when done correctly, you won't have to adjust your aim for the hyzer any more than you do on a short putt.

For shots with a very low ceiling, you can keep the disc completely hyzered at the release. This is a damned nifty shot that acts like a spin putt that starts 1ft from the ground. More spin = less effect the hyzer angle of the putter has on the flight path.

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What should I look for in a putter?
There's a reason Nikko uses the Gateway Magic for this putt. (I personally use the Magic as well.)
The less stable/overstable the putter, the longer it can stay in that stalled flight before beginning to fade.
I've tryed KC Aviars, Wizards, even Voodoos for this putt, and they just don't work as well.
Something like an Aviar, Magnet, Magic, etc. Something straight or even understable.
Additionally, because this putt is more of a lob than a throw, I've found that a domey putter isn't beneficial. It seems to alter the path of the disc.

Lastly, you NEED a firm putter for this putt. A floppy putter won't allow you to pop the disc to flat. It's also a relatively high-torque putt. A firm or hard putter is best, in my experience.


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F.A.Q.

I keep throwing over the basket
Release the disc earlier in the swing.

My putts are moving right to left/left to right
More spin on the putter = less effect the hyzer angle of the putter has on the flight path. Also, try to pop the disc completely flat, using the fingers under the disc's flight plate.
Also, make sure you're using a putter that lends itself to this technique.




THANK FOR READING!
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:04 PM
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Great info SirRaph! I will have to give this a try.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:07 PM
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thats how i putt...we call it the donkey kong putt
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:14 PM
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The video link under the stance part goes to nothing.

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Old 08-12-2010, 01:17 PM
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just search for nikko on youtube, he putts the same everytime
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:17 PM
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video links down anyone embed straight to the board from youtube?? thanks?
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:20 PM
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just copy and past the video.

will be trying this out because i'm god awful at putting
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:20 PM
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i don't know if this one is the same, but nikko plays in it

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watch around :35 for a good angle
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:24 PM
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is his goal to dress as goofy as possible?
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