Hyzer Putting vs. Overstable Putters

[zenbot]

I was reading Climo's spiel on hyzer putting. I primarily use Rhynos within 30 feet and it sounds like it, pretty much, has the same effect.

Any thoughts on what the differences are?

[80playedin10states]

differences of what?...to me a stable putter is only good for hyzer putting?...

[zenbot]

There's going to a difference if you're using an Aviar and releasing it hyzer in as opposed to throwing an overstable disc flat and letting it do it's thing.

I'm just curious if anybody's used both methods and if they have an opinion of the pros and cons.

[zensuit]

Doesn't Climo basically say that since ALL discs fade naturally to a Hyzer that he likes to remove all the variables and play the hyzer?

I do that with an ESP Banger GT and it has led to me being very consistent. However, if the course is open and windy it can be a problem.

Z

[zenbot]

Originally Posted by zensuit

Doesn't Climo basically say that since ALL discs fade naturally to a Hyzer that he likes to remove all the variables and play the hyzer?

I do that with an ESP Banger GT and it has led to me being very consistent. However, if the course is open and windy it can be a problem.

Z

I haven't worked with much Discraft. They only seem to sell Innova out here. What about the Banger do you like?

[zensuit]

The Banger GT has that groove in the top which seems to be a key to my consistent release. I use 173-174 and they also seem to turn at the same place in their flight every time.

I went through Wizards, JK Aviars, and was putting pretty well with a rhyno. But I make a LOT more 25-30 foot putts with the banger.

Z

[zud00]

Bang da' Chains with that Banger! Bang da' Chains!

[garublador]

Originally Posted by zenbot

There's going to a difference if you're using an Aviar and releasing it hyzer in as opposed to throwing an overstable disc flat and letting it do it's thing.

I don't think you'll find many successful putters who do anything but run straight at the basket, regardless of release angle, for putts inside the circle.

Personally, I don't like overstable putters like the Rhyno because they lack carry even at low speeds. That makes it that much harder to put adequeate power on longer (>20') putts. A 30' putt with a Rhyno requires more power than a 30' putt with a Wizard. It's kind of like you're artificially lengthening those putts.

[zensuit]

Originally Posted by garublador

I don't think you'll find many successful putters who do anything but run straight at the basket, regardless of release angle, for putts inside the circle.

Personally, I don't like overstable putters like the Rhyno because they lack carry even at low speeds. That makes it that much harder to put adequeate power on longer (>20') putts. A 30' putt with a Rhyno requires more power than a 30' putt with a Wizard. It's kind of like you're artificially lengthening those putts.

I think the rhyno is a very effective go for it putter at 30-50 feet because of that lack of carry. It has a predictable hyzer, never sails and rarely rolls. But if you want to go for putts everytime and not sweat the misses NOTHING works as well as a Blowfly. You miss and it goes splat.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a Wizard pretty overstable?

[sidewinder22]

Wouldnt say the wizard is overstable like a Rhyno or Pig, but stable like a BB Aviar, and GT Banger.