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Old 01-01-2011, 08:43 PM
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X XL, DX or Pro Leopard, vision, maybe the river (haven't really thrown it enough)
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:59 PM
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So this begs the question, what would be a good understable fairway driver out of the box?
I would also say X XL, or maybe a star stingray. Most people call it a mid but to me it is a super slow fairway driver, because of its speed.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:17 PM
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During a discs "lifetime", does it tend to become more stable, overstable or understable?

I understand that a disc needs to be "broken in" in order to fly somewhat like the description, but what happens *after* that? does it become more stable as it gets beat up?
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:20 PM
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During a discs "lifetime", does it tend to become more stable, overstable or understable?

I understand that a disc needs to be "broken in" in order to fly somewhat like the description, but what happens *after* that? does it become more stable as it gets beat up?
The more times you hit a tree, the less stable (more flippy) the disc gets.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:21 PM
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During a discs "lifetime", does it tend to become more stable, overstable or understable?

I understand that a disc needs to be "broken in" in order to fly somewhat like the description, but what happens *after* that? does it become more stable as it gets beat up?
A disc is most overstable when new, then beats in eventually to understable and it's last stage of life is flippy POS. So, overstable-stable-understable-flippy POS.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:22 PM
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hmm does less stable (more flippy) mean understable or overstable, or does it mean neither of those? (apologies for not knowing, but this is the newbie thread, right? )
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:24 PM
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@Brother dave, ah so "flippy" is neither understable or overstable - does "flippy" mean it just flips somewhat vertically and flies like a POS?
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:26 PM
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hmm does less stable (more flippy) mean understable or overstable, or does it mean neither of those? (apologies for not knowing, but this is the newbie thread, right? )
This is a giant semantics argument in DG land born from the pseudo-scientific nature of the label of disc stability.

Stable = straight.
Understable = flippy.
Overstable = beefy/meathook/fades hard.

Often, it is common to see someone say "less stable" or "more stable" and what they mean is "more understable" and "more overstable," respectively.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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@Brother Dave, thanks for the explanation! I'm trying to figure out of a Beast I've been throwing is a flippy POS yet or if I'm just poorly throwing it now.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:39 PM
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what is the plastic/condition/weight of the beast and how far are you throwing it?
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