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Old 06-27-2012, 01:21 AM
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idk if this is dumb or not but what is the difference in flight between a pro wraith compared to a champ for RHFH. Ive noticed many people on this site praise the pro wraith and cant figure out why.
The wraith glides much better in pro IMO. The champ will be more stable out of the box, but take longer to break down then its pro counterpart.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:36 AM
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I see from time to time the term "glopto".
I get that it's a mix of gold and opto.
But exactly what is it you should look for in a glopto disc?
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:09 PM
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I'd semi-educatedly guess that the price in material is negligible....the higher product price is most likely based upon perceived value, i.e. marketing.
The premium plastics do last longer, so the price is partially justified, but,
I agree, when buying the pellets in a reasonably large quantity, the difference in price per gram would be negligible.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:21 PM
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What does it mean when people say "I can barely flip the disc" Does this literally mean that the disc flips in mid air?
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:56 PM
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What does it mean when people say "I can barely flip the disc" Does this literally mean that the disc flips in mid air?
flip=go right more than a little bit
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:01 PM
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Or, in particular, I think of the disc rotating clockwise along its trajectory. Moving from an angle like "/" to an angle like "-" and on to an angle like "\". And, if it has time, yes, this will be the difference between a shot turning to the left, a shot going straight, and a shot turning to the right.

All that for e.g. a RHBH player starting off on a hyzer angle (e.g. throwing a hyzer flip, though maybe that should stop when level).

Many discs will flip when thrown at high speeds, especially as they get beaten in.

So, if they can "barely flip" a disc, they're barely throwing fast enough to make that particular disc flip up e.g. from a hyzer angle to level flight.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:36 PM
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I see from time to time the term "glopto".
I get that it's a mix of gold and opto.
But exactly what is it you should look for in a glopto disc?
Any answers?
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:39 PM
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Any answers?
It refers to a slightly more transparent blend of GL, which is generally opaque
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:01 PM
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Okay another question.. Does weight have any affect on how much a disc fade at the end. So if I had two Champ Valk one was 160g and the other was 170g would they both tail off the same at the end if there was no wind whatsoever.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:58 PM
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Okay another question.. Does weight have any affect on how much a disc fade at the end. So if I had two Champ Valk one was 160g and the other was 170g would they both tail off the same at the end if there was no wind whatsoever.
Not a simple answer there. Weight is generally one of the least important aspects in disc flight, especially when it's only 5-10 grams. That said, the ways they achieve different weights do often affect the plastic, so sometimes it can show effects in that way. Combined factor with that is that in the 10g+ weight range difference, you'll more than likely be able to get the disc up to speed - or overpowered - which will definitely affect the flight.

So...none of that really matters much in regard to fade, because fade is dependent on when the disc begins to lose spin. With good snap/spin, the disc will either travel farther before fading, or will fade less, depending on the disc (with the Valk, I think it goes farther and/or can hold a turn better/longer). Being able to get a disc up to speed (lower weight, for example) doesn't necessarily mean that it's getting good spin. That depends on proper form.
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