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Old 08-20-2012, 01:16 AM
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So, I got home and eyeballed the Axis vs Soft Ion. The core looked the same. I stacked them together, bottom to bottom, and only then did I see the slight difference in the cores. I could have sworn I had read that MVP only had one main core (besides the Volt), so I just assumed the overmold was the only thing that gave the Axis, and Vector their width over the putters.

I measured across the tops of both discs with a ribbon tape measure and it seems the difference in the core width is roughly 3.5 millimeters between the Axis, and Ion. (My measurement could be off. I don't have precise instruments)

I'll readily admit that I was wrong. Just by eyeballing the discs, it seemed that the overmolds are what make the difference, not the cores.

You learn something new every day.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:41 AM
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I highly doubt that the Volt core will be reusable at large. With the putters and mids, the overmold alone determined the presence of bead, shape of wing, etc. Whereas the overmold on the drivers will only dictate part of the shape of the wing, the presence of a notch, and the bluntedness of the nose, etc. In order to create differently flying discs, more than the last half of the wing needs to be changed.

I'm not positive that the Volt core won't be useable for ANY other mold--just that it will be far more limited for the reasons above. However, we could see "X" and "L" variations on the same mold by modifying the overmold alone...
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:55 AM
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MVP mids and putters do not use the same core. Both mids use the same core and both putters use the same core, but the two cores are different.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:10 AM
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Yeah that theory can be debunked by just looking at how deep the putters are and how shallow the mids are. If you've ever held an Axis then held one of the putters theres no way you can tell me the cores feel the same. Also the mids don't have as much curvature on the inner rim.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:23 PM
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Vector in Nuetron Plastic?!
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:32 PM
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Mike maybe you can answer this question for me. I really want to love the Axis but I can't get the hang of throwing it and always switch back to my Vector. I know it has a little to do with some OAT because I get a second of flutter with it out of the hand but it also seems like I'm putting too much power into it which is silly because of my noodle arm. Is the secret to it really all in the smooth pull and making sure you aren't tweaking it a little anny instead of flat?
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:46 PM
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Mike maybe you can answer this question for me. I really want to love the Axis but I can't get the hang of throwing it and always switch back to my Vector. I know it has a little to do with some OAT because I get a second of flutter with it out of the hand but it also seems like I'm putting too much power into it which is silly because of my noodle arm. Is the secret to it really all in the smooth pull and making sure you aren't tweaking it a little anny instead of flat?

From my experience with the Axis I would say put more hyzer on it and let it flip up and it will fly straight. It will just about stay on whatever line you put it on so if you are off a bit and it takes off one way or the other for you it will never come back. It does take more technique to throw the Axis but when you hit it right it's awesome.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:49 PM
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Oh I agree that when it flies correctly it's great. Same thing with my Vibram Ibex. I think my issue is I'm throwing from a straight position and not bending over with some knee action which would compensate for my slight anny release.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:19 PM
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Vector in Nuetron Plastic?!
Yea, the mids in Neutron will be money.

One of the things I like about the Axis is that is has that little touch of fade at the end. It that regard I think it pairs well with a Comet because once the Comet turns, it's not coming back.
 

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Old 08-20-2012, 01:24 PM
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Yea, the mids in Neutron will be money.

One of the things I like about the Axis is that is has that little touch of fade at the end. It that regard I think it pairs well with a Comet because once the Comet turns, it's not coming back.
Now see...My Axis doesn't fade AT ALL. It acts more like a comet. I don't know if that's because I have a first run green though.
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