Flyboy closed, but for how long?

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by roadtripstuff

Ok, no offense to anyone that knows this guy and I'm hoping he is just pissed, but he comes off like a real DB in that post. It kind of sounds like, its okay to swear, litter, and be a jackass on other courses, but not here, not at my baby. Meh just rubbed me the wrong way. How about we encourage disc golfers to not be arseholes everywhere, not just at one "precious" private course.

Surely you can tell the difference between standards on a public and private course?

A public course is owned by tax payers and open to all, and thus must be rather tolerant of parkgoers. Despite which, some disc golfers still manage to go over the line and get their courses pulled.

But when people expend their own money and their own effort and generously make it available to others, they have every right to request higher standards. You're not a taxpayer in your own park---you're a GUEST on someone else's property.

[DiscChucker]

Originally Posted by DavidSauls

Surely you can tell the difference between standards on a public and private course?

A public course is owned by tax payers and open to all, and thus must be rather tolerant of parkgoers. Despite which, some disc golfers still manage to go over the line and get their courses pulled.

But when people expend their own money and their own effort and generously make it available to others, they have every right to request higher standards. You're not a taxpayer in your own park---you're a GUEST on someone else's property.

Exactly David. I was struggling to find the words to explain this in an eloquent fashion but I couldn't muster up something that sounded appropriate. You stated just what was on my mind.

[roadtripstuff]

Originally Posted by DavidSauls

Surely you can tell the difference between standards on a public and private course?

A public course is owned by tax payers and open to all, and thus must be rather tolerant of parkgoers. Despite which, some disc golfers still manage to go over the line and get their courses pulled.

But when people expend their own money and their own effort and generously make it available to others, they have every right to request higher standards. You're not a taxpayer in your own park---you're a GUEST on someone else's property.

Read my last post. I think you have it a little backwards. Yes the public parks are paid for by taxes, but they are pulled out just as often, if not more. Like I said as a private course you can just ask these DBs to leave. At a public park you can't really ask them to leave as long as the course is there, who's going to watch everyday and see if someone who has been kicked out of the public park shows up? No one, thats who. Solution pull the course and turn it into a nature park, happened here in Columbus a while back with Highbanks Park.

I can't believe that you would think a private course has a better chance of being pulled because of bad behavior, thats just non sense.

[NDABRUSH]

I am sure we have all been Douchey at some point and time. Private courses are very rare where I live so I look at them as found treasure and as a big time privilege to play. I am not saying that anyone here doesn't appreciate and respect private courses. Just saying a poor kid getting his 1st new bike will appreciate it more than a kid getting another new bike to replace the new one from last year. We had one recently for about a year and the owner had it removed from this site, not sure why.

[roadtripstuff]

I just have to say, I think most of you have to either own a private course or are close or think you are close to someone that has a private course. I can't believe anyone would think that you would need to act better in private than in public. It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

Do you act better when you are at home having dinner, then eat like a pig and be rude at a restaurant?

As for the being a guest on someone's property, you are a guest and visitor to public parks as well. While the park is public they don't have to have a disc golf course there. As a matter of fact, there are probably a lot of people out there that would say, "if you want to play disc golf put one on your own property." After all a lot more people would probably use that land if it were a bike or walking path, part of a dog park, etc.

I can't believe you think that as a public park they are required to put up with sh!tty behavior just to have a disc golf course.

[billnchristy]

I think all land should be treated with respect...no matter who owns it.

[therealbigtrav]

I'm certain quite a few players have seen illegal things on both private and public courses and looked the other way. I've witnessed people defacing property/using drugs/violence/etc on disc golf courses and done nothing about it, but never had a course that I used be pulled for any of these factors. After reading about what happened at Flyboy (and several other courses), I wonder if it will change people's tolerance towards illegal behavior.

[roadtripstuff]

Originally Posted by billnchristy

I think all land should be treated with respect...no matter who owns it.

Exactly

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by roadtripstuff

Read my last post. I think you have it a little backwards. Yes the public parks are paid for by taxes, but they are pulled out just as often, if not more. Like I said as a private course you can just ask these DBs to leave. At a public park you can't really ask them to leave as long as the course is there, who's going to watch everyday and see if someone who has been kicked out of the public park shows up? No one, thats who. Solution pull the course and turn it into a nature park, happened here in Columbus a while back with Highbanks Park.

I can't believe that you would think a private course has a better chance of being pulled because of bad behavior, thats just non sense.

With apologies, I was slow typing and though my post was after many of yours, I hadn't read them yet.

I'm not sanctioning bad behaviour on public courses---just that the parks departments have to be more accommodating. I pointed out that sometimes disc golfers behave so bad that they get a public course pulled. I agree that ALL disc golfers, everywhere, should conduct themselves better.

But it's not nonsense that a private course has a greater chance of being pulled. I've known of many, temporarily or permanently. All you have to do is offend the owner or make him think of the liability risk he's taking, and he just says, "I don't have to put up with this" and locks the gate.

(I should say here that I'm on both sides---a lot of work on a public course that has less-than-enthusiastic support from the Parks Dept., and a private course owner. Luckily I haven't had the problems with visiting players, but then again, from Day 1 we've had the "escort" policy in effect.)

[mashnut]

I'm hoping to find a way to play when I'm there in April, either by working out a guided tour with Kelley or including a night at the B&B, either that or We'll plan a separate trip to go spend a couple nights there later in the summer. It's always a shame to see a course bulled due to douchebaggery, but it's even more of a shame to see someone's generosity and hospitality taken advantage of like this.