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Old 05-20-2009, 07:17 PM
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disc cuts hard to the left

my friend gets out on the course and everytime he throws hard it flys really high and cuts extremely hard to the left. everything that we have tried doing never helps and i have no more ideas to fix this problem.

any ideas on what could be causing it and how to fix it?
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:25 PM
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Just tell...your friend ...that this is a common occurence with newer players. "Your friend" is throwing with nose up.

Solution: throw with nose down.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:26 PM
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This is a VERY common problem for new players (assuming your friend is new to the sport). I did the same thing when I started, but made myself focus on pulling the disc back and through on a nice level plane with a linear motion. Have your friend try throwing from a stand still (no run up) with a mid-range (something stable or understable), and focus on keeping the disc flat and level.

As arm/disc speed develops, and you begin to get a fair amount of spin on the disc, it will get easier to keep it level without diving hard left. As a disc starts to lose speed/spin, it will start to dive to the left.

This was my focus when I first started, took a few weeks, but I definitely saw improvement.
Like sidewinding said, nose up is bad. Focus on flat release with nose level/slightly downward, it will get better.

Hope this helps?!

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Old 05-20-2009, 07:42 PM
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Also make sure you check his grip, a lot of noobs like too keep there index finger on the outside of the disc, instead of under the rim...
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:46 PM
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A great piece of advice I got when I was new was to throw like "you are backhanding a midget". Seriously. Stand up right now and pretend you're going to backhand a little person. That's good form. The arm goes back and comes straight across the chest.

Tell your friend to smack the midget and they'll start improving.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:58 PM
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I bet it is really a combination of two things.

One, he is definately throwing it with nose up. Talk with him about making sure that the disc is level, flat as if it were lying on the tee or your kitchen table, assuming one leg is not shorter than the other.

Two, it is going to have something to do with his throwing motion. The first thing I generally tell people is to think about your arm moving from your back shoulder to your front shoulder. Most people are used to throwing a catch disc where this motion is not necessary to make the disc work correctly. My guess is that he will try to over compensate by moving his arm from high to low, but muscle memory will then cause his arm to bounce and it will appear that he still has the same old problem.

You really need to think about math class when you were learning about planes. Everything needs to be in its plane.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:01 PM
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tell your friend to concentrate on throwing the disc as flat as possible for a little while, and maybe throw standing still until he gets the hang of it.

That's what worked for me when I first started.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:48 PM
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Also make sure you check his grip, a lot of noobs like too keep there index finger on the outside of the disc, instead of under the rim...
Here is a link to the Innova website that details the different types of grips for backhand, forehand, etc...
http://www.innovadiscs.com/tips/davesgripsmain.html
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:32 AM
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Also, your friend might be throwing a disc that is too fast and/or too over stable for him, like a Teerex or Destroyer. Surprised nobody mentioned this yet.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:11 AM
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Also, your friend might be throwing a disc that is too fast and/or too over stable for him, like a Teerex or Destroyer. Surprised nobody mentioned this yet.
This is what I was thinking too (in addition to the form issues mentioned earlier). What is he throwing? My recommendation would be to start throwing with just a mid and a putter. Once his form has improved, pick up a gazelle or teebird.
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