Best Way to Explain

[Mystic1027]

Sometimes people just need to learn things for themselves. The more you try to tell them otherwise, the more resistant they end up being. It's a lesson that a lot of people on here (myself included) have had to stumble their way through on their own.

[GLong]

Originally Posted by Chrisgeoguy

Myself and one other guy in our group have out driven him before with mids and putters.

I cannot believe that it didn't work. what did he say after that??

[Chrisgeoguy]

His scores aren't bad...usually Bogey, Par DG. The problem is that he only get's Birdie's on shorter holes, and feels that the "faster" disc's will give him that extra distance.

I have mentioned the hammer drills, to try and help with his snap, and other things online to check out to work on technique; but this doesn't seem to work.

That's even with him throwing higher speed disc and having them sail to the left, right after his release.

[zenbot]

Tell him a bunch of strangers from the internet are concerned about his progress as a player.

[The Hammer]

Start playing him for cash. It won't teach him anything, but at least you'll make money from his hard-headedness.

Is hard-headedness even a word? If not, I'm claiming it as my own.

[bergdawg]

How interested is he in getting better? If he's just out there to have fun and get outside, let him do what he does.

[Chrisgeoguy]

No he wants to get better.

[GLong]

Originally Posted by dstearns5

Start playing him for cash.

this. put a consistent beat-down on his wallet and his tune may change.

[slowRoll]

You guys do realize that someone that doesn't throw far and has terrible form WILL throw farther with a lightweight Vulcan right? Even without improving their terrible form, the faster lightweight understable disc will travel farther before bailing out, get there quicker, and end up longer off the tee. My lovely wife rarely plays but is able to throw her 128g Valkyrie about 25' longer than her Stingray or her Mako.

Of course working on form... (blah, blah, blah for the 1000th time) will be better in the long run. I'm just saying that for the short term; a lighter more understable fast disc does provide a noticeable return on investment.

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by pzacch05

buy a blank disc like a valkyrie or a fairway driver and tell him its a new speed 13.5 prototype. then after he played a whole round and throws it well (hopefully) tell him hey dumb*** thats what ive been trying to get you to do from the get go.

Awesome idea.

At the other end of the spectrum, I wonder how many people who are ultra-particular about their discs could throw a set of unmarked discs, and identify the models and approximate weights?