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Old 01-19-2015, 01:22 PM
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Coldsweat's 2015 ITB and Confessional

Ok so a little background. I started discgolfing about 5 years ago. It started when I was working at Sleepy Hollow State Park in charge of upkeep on the course. That summer I played countless rounds, found/lost countless discs, and had a lot of fun doing it with some of my closest friends and new friends I met at the park. I can't remember all the discs I used but I remember that the three most used and never lost were: Champ Eagle-X (thrashed), Z Buzzz (new at the time), and an R-Pro Aviar (Me and my friends thought these were the bees knees due to floppiness).

Fast forward to 2 years ago when I moved from East Lansing to Ann Arbor. I discovered so many new courses and CJ's party store. This also coincided with me hiring into a machine opperating position near by (which made me feel like a failure because all I could focus on was my engineering degree). Having fun still but it wasn't quite the same, playing with new friends and new courses. Found and fell in love with the zone early. That is about the biggest highlight of this period.

Than the worst time in my life happened. I was bumped to 2nd shift. And saw absolutely no one I cared about. This compounded with the winter of last year lead to a little bit of depression. I bought way too many discs and gained way to much weight. I lost my love for the game. Improvement was all I cared about, and I forgot how to have fun. All of this coincided with a huge slip off in my game play and my want to play. Also spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars I should have been saving on discs that will "make me better".

Finally in the now. I was promoted off the machines and off of second shift. I am still not making what I know I should/could. But I am in a much more comfortable position of Assistant Tool Room Manager. I also have come to the realization that I don't really care if I get better so long as I am having fun and at least competitive with the people I play with.

Backstory out of the way. This year I am focusing on improving my balance, flexibility, and overall health. If I lose weight that will just be a happy side effect. I have been doing a workout plan including Qi Gong/Yoga, body weight training, and Interval training. I figure the biggest way to improve my distance off the tee by next season is to improve my overall athleticism and health.

My second focus is to stop trying to do shots I know I can't and just to play my own game. I am not a pro, not even a high level amature. I am a rec player and prob always will be. There is no shame in playing for par and I have come to realize that.

Onto the Bag:

Putters (100-150 avg, 200 max)

2 x Classic Hard Judges (First Runs)- 1 beat for outside circle, 1 chains only circle
1 x Classic Soft Judge - most BH approaches
1 x GBO Fuzion Judge - S/US Putter drives and longer approaches
1 x ESP Zone - thrashed (flies like envy with a little more bite) do it all disc. Most strokes in a round are on this disc.

Mids (150-250 pending on line needed)

1 x Z Comet - "S/OS Comet", can put it on any line and it holds, holds up in the wind.
2 x X Comet - 1 thrashed for BH Rollers, 1 worn for annies/hyzerflip to turnover.
1 x Champ Roc3 - Most OS midrange, fh mid shots, heavy winds.

Drivers (200-300 pending on line)

2 x Teebirds - 1 champ "os" teebird shots and main fh driver, 1 dx "s" teebird and main driver.
2 x Leopards - 1 pro "s/us" leo used for annys and turnovers, 1 thrashed dx for utility and rollers.
2 x Wraiths - 1 pro for us distance driver shots and max d thumbers, 1 star for skips, fh rollers, and big flex shots.

So that is my bag, I know most will say not to carry the wraiths but I am going to keep them in there. I seldom use them and they are mostly utility discs. I will generally pull them out for stiff headwinds, fh distance rollers, and all OH duties. Seldom bh them (most of that work goes to the birds and the comets).

Any insight into the bag would be great. Any workout or cheap healthy recipes welcome. Any insight into how to attack the course most efficiently with a weenie arm would be welcome. And if you just want to chat feel free. Thank you for those of you that read this and enjoy your day.
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:19 PM
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I like everything you've said.
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Old 01-19-2015, 07:12 PM
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Thank you sir. The feeling is mutual.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:03 PM
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Dude, right on. I dig the bag setup, and applaud you on getting healthier (something I REALLY need to get around to). I'm guessing you're done with your degree?

Anyways, onto the bag. I'm kind of the same way with distances, although when I really have my form on I can get a little over 300. One disc is just a suggestion as a replacement; if you ever lose your beat to heck Leopard, get an Underworld. It's uber-flippy and glides for a freaking mile; it's just a really fun disc. I don't use mine as much as I wish because I have an FD that is also super fun, but the Underworld is a really great flippy fairway.

Two, have you played around with any speed 9 drivers? The disc I'm most glad I added back to my bag was the Avenger SS. I had a pro D one that got super beat super quick so I gave it away. I finally picked up a 167-169 Z one about a month ago and it is basically perfect for my arm speed. If you really get a good crank on it it can hyzerflip or get some turn, but it can also handle a bit less power and not just be a meathook. I'd recommend picking one up in that weight or slightly heavier in Pro D to mess around with. It's super cheap and not a big investment, and I think you'd really enjoy it. It would probably sit down between the Teebirds and Wraiths as a manageable distance disc.

However, if you don't add that, the bag still looks solid. Keep Calm and Disc On man
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:30 PM
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Yeah I finished my degree in 2012 and got caught up in an abusive manager situation before I quit for the operators position. It is all good now though and I have learned an awful lot about myself from everything that has happened.

I have messed around in the speed 9 to 10 range. I have had really good luck with a beat X-Avenger and I am assuming that is how a fresh Avenger-SS would fly. I have also had pretty good luck with the DD Escape and the MVP Inertia. I've also thrown the PD, Saint, Sidewinder, and Timberwolf but none of those ever really stuck. I could go back to the 9 or 10 range and drop the wraith. My problem I was finding was that I wasn't really getting the greatest skip and max D OH shots suffered without the thicker rims.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:53 PM
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Not on your bag (which honestly looks pretty solid) but if you're already doing a little yoga, check out DDP Yoga. Don't know if you're a wrestling fan, but Diamond Dallas Page was one of the biggest stars of the 90s, even though he was quite a bit older than the other guys. After getting beat up for so long, he needed a way to stay in shape so developed his own Yoga program that features dyanmic resitence and body weight exercises along with the yoga to get you a great stretch as well as cardio. It's a great program to look into and can be easily done at home.

Best of luck to you, and it's great to see that you are back in a good place!
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:49 PM
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I could go back to the 9 or 10 range and drop the wraith. My problem I was finding was that I wasn't really getting the greatest skip and max D OH shots suffered without the thicker rims.
So why not both? Bag one Wraith and then get a neutral to slightly understable speed 9 disc to go with it? Heavier champ Sidewinder, Avenger SS, Valkyrie, Heat, or anything else along those lines. That way you keep the massive skip shots and max overhand, while having a workable complementary disc alongside. Or if you want to keep both discs on the overstable, there's the CD2, Saint, or a disc like that which can be workable but won't overlap too much with the Wraiths
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:29 PM
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So I just shook things up and traded a lot of discs for backups and multiples of molds I plan on throwing. Played a ribbon round and absolutely killed it.

Putters:

2 x Classic Hard Judge (Putts)
1 x Lucid Judge (Drives and Upshots)
1 x ESP Zone (Drives and Upshots, Utility)

Mids:

3 x Roc3 (S/OS, S, S/US)
2 x Flying Squirrel (150 class for stand and delivers, max weight for understable utility)

Drivers

3 x Teebird (S/OS, S, S/US)
3 x Orc (S/OS, S, S/US)
2 x Flick (150 class for OH shots, 170g for utility)

I decided to drop down a speed from the wraith to the orc. I also noticed that this lessened the gap from the teebirds to the distance driver so I don't think speed 9's are needed. I still get skip shots and forehand out of the orcs but feel like I can actually use them effectively more consistently. I also dropped the leopards because they overlapped a decent amount with the squirrels. I went with the squirrels instead of the comets because they offer a better US midrange and I traded for a roc3 that was beat in to fly very similar to my X Comet. This setup makes sense to me, and I feel like I can learn to wield it effectively this upcoming season. For any of you who care.
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:05 PM
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I didn't like speed 9, and traded for an Orc and couldn't have been happier. I use Teebirds a lot and the Orc felt like a natural jump. I can push my DX Teebird almost as far as an Orc, but it takes a few seconds longer.
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The new setup looks good; I have two Orcs, a PFN Star (but with the website) and a Champion. I can grip the rim but don't find it to be the most comfortable experience in the world, so I stick with speed 9 right now. And I say all that to say I think dropping down to Orcs is a really good idea; they're still great drivers, but a speed slower they'll be easier to throw and control.
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