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Old 05-20-2012, 01:19 AM
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I can almost guarantee you that a beat ESP Zone would beat out your Wasp easily.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:27 AM
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Interesting thought BroD, and if I ever find an ESP Zone that's truly beat I might try it. Haha

On another Wasp note, I got a Ti Wasp and its definately less stable than the Z Wasp. I'm thinking about replacing the Glow FLX Buzzz with the Ti Wasp. Any reason to keep both?

Also, I got a hold of some of the RFF Wizards and they feel really good, but I've been putting pretty well with the Omega SS. Any reason to switch? Only thing I can think of is that I could replace the Omega and KC Aviar with it, but I don't have a ton of approach experience with the Wizards so I'm not sure.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:31 PM
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Max Distance
VIP Sword, 169g- Tailwinds, annys, hyzer-flips, long S curves
Tourney Sword, 172g- Hyzer-flips

Controlled Distance
Champ Orc, 172g- Hard Hyzers, skips, headwinds (very beefy)
Champ Glow Orc, 172g- distance hyzers, straight with fade, controlled S Curves
SB Orc, 172g- Hyzers and straight

Fairways
GL Trident, 173g- Spikes, skips, utility
Champ Glo Gazelle, 175g- Long flex shots, Controlled Hyzers
Champ Glo Gazelle, 172g- Line shaper, straight with gentle fade, slow hyzers
Champ Glo Gazelle, 172- slightly understable, controlled annys, hyzer-flips
Opto River, 173g- Hyzer flips and big annys, tailwinds

Mids
GL Fuse, 176g- Understable duties, annys, hyzer flips that turn over
Z Buzzz, 175g- Straight, big left to right, gentle hyzers
Ti Wasp, 174g- Straight with fade, S curves, longest mid in the bag.
Z Wasp, 176g- Beefy, hard hyzers, straight with hard fade, fast flex shots, skips
Z Zone, 175g- Utility, spikes, OH, real short hyzers

Putters
Omega SS, 175g- Back Up
Omega SS, 175g- Main Putter

I played in an A Tier this weekend and took 11th with this set up, and I was really throwing well. Especially the Orcs and Swords. I actually out drove Philo Bathwraite. (Now he was already like 40 strokes ahead of me and like 8 strokes ahead of second and was just laying up, but hey gotta take it while you can.)

I was throwing the Omegas, Zone, Buzzz, and Ti Wasp well also. The only spot that was giving me trouble was the slightly understable control driver slot. So I'm going to test out the Sidewinder and Valk, to see which will make the bag.

I have enjoyed the one disc in three different stages with the Gazelle and Orc. This was an easy way to good choices.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:23 AM
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So after testing out for a week the Valk is now in the bag. I'm a little upset with this b/c for the longest time I didn't want to throw a Valk b/c that what everybody was throwing. Well I guess there is a reason everyone is throwing it. Time to suck up my pride and stubborness and just deal with throwing better.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:24 AM
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I think there is a good bit of overlap between the Valk and River, and the Valk and Orc. My 2 beat champ Orcs fly basically the same lines as lightly seasoned Valks.

Not sure how flippy your River is, but they also share many flight characteristics with Valks/Sidewinders, and have basically the same distance potential.
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Old 06-18-2012, 05:22 PM
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The River has become very beat, to the point where I only use it for annys anymore. I've been debating taking the it out, but it's been in the bag so long I'm resistent to change it.

I have so many Orcs that continually cycle them through, so that even my most seasoned Orc with still fade out when thrown with full power. The Valk I have found will stay straight or just barely come out of an anny unlike the Orc. I actually chose the Valk over the Sidewinder because could release and throw it most similar to my Orcs, I was finding I had to change my throw to get the Sidewinder to do what I wanted.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:16 PM
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VIP Sword, 169g- Tailwinds, annys, hyzer-flips, long S curves
Tourney Sword, 172g- Hyzer-flips

Controlled Distance
Champ Orc, 172g- Hard Hyzers, skips, headwinds (very beefy)
Champ Glow Orc, 172g- distance hyzers, straight with fade, controlled S Curves
SB Orc, 172g- Hyzers and straight
Star Valk, 175g- Straight and turnovers

Fairways
GL Trident, 173g- Spikes, skips, utility
Champ Glo Gazelle, 175g- Long flex shots, Controlled Hyzers
Champ Glo Gazelle, 172g- Line shaper, straight with gentle fade, slow hyzers
Champ Glo Gazelle, 172- slightly understable, controlled annys, hyzer-flips

Mids
Opto Pure, 176g- Driving Putter, shorter buzzz
Opto Fuse, 169g- Understable duties, annys, hyzer flips that turn over
Z Buzzz, 175g- Straight, big left to right, gentle hyzers
Ti Wasp, 174g- Straight with fade, S curves, longest mid in the bag.
Z Wasp, 176g- Beefy, hard hyzers, straight with hard fade, fast flex shots, skips
Z Zone, 175g- Utility, spikes, OH, real short hyzers

Putters
Omega SS, 175g- Back Up
Omega SS, 175g- Main Putter

Only a few slight changes.

Added an Opto Pure, it fits the driving putter role that I've been looking to find.

Added an Opto Fuse that is significantly lighter than the mids I currently throw. The GL that I replaced with another GL was just too stable and needs some work that I don't want to put in, so I got the really light Opto.

Added the Star Valk. Great for straight with no or little fade, turnovers, and powers down well.

Suprised at how much I like the 3 Gazelle Fairway system. I thought I would really miss my River, but, unfortunetly, I don't so I'm not going to carry it. For the first time in a long time I feel really content with the bag.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:54 AM
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what would you compare the Sword to? they sound pretty interesting but i havent really messed around with any of their molds.. but yeah bag looks really solid i dont really see anything you would be missing
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:35 PM
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The Sword for me it like a longer Orc or a Wraith/Surge with more HSS but the same fade. Others have called it a beat Destroyer. It's very workable and easy to throw. Where the Orc gets it's D from speed, the Sword gets it's D from glide and movement.
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^^ sounds like its right up my alley .. thanks for the info
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