jump putt question - Page 4

Cgkdisc · #31 07-09-2011, 01:45 AM

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Not crossing the mark until the disc has settled is an easy way to determine balance.

Take a look at F-3. There's an example where if I had waited a few milliseconds longer, it would be clear the disc stopped before I faulted by grabbing the basket wire. With your proposed wording, that would be okay. Also, there are times when the disc hits the basket and rolls down the hill in an area where you might need to track it to find it. Would players have to wait to move past their mini until it stops, especially since it will be "YSO" and they'll be throwing next?

MNcyclone · #32 07-09-2011, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Take a look at F-3. There's an example where if I had waited a few milliseconds longer, it would be clear the disc stopped before I faulted by grabbing the basket wire. With your proposed wording, that would be okay. Also, there are times when the disc hits the basket and rolls down the hill in an area where you might need to track it to find it. Would players have to wait to move past their mini until it stops, especially since it will be "YSO" and they'll be throwing next?

I'm cool with f-3, so long as we assume you don;t touch the basket until the disc is settled, it is so close that balance must only be maintained for a short time. Yes, when the roll goes down a hill you would have to refrain from going towards the basket until it is at rest. Why would it make sense to go towards the basket at all in this case? The disc went the opposite way!

Cgkdisc · #33 07-09-2011, 08:25 AM

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Why would it make sense to go towards the basket at all in this case? The disc went the opposite way!

There are many places in the Twin Cities alone where you can hit or skip off the basket and roll beyond it and you don't even need to hit the basket at all for that to happen.

MNcyclone · #34 07-09-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

There are many places in the Twin Cities alone where you can hit or skip off the basket and roll beyond it and you don't even need to hit the basket at all for that to happen.

I know, the thing is that many times I will putt from my lead foot, wait until the disc settles, and then walk forward with my rear foot to retrieve my disc. If the disc rolls back in a different direction, I would simply walk in that direction to make another putt. In those situations I would not pass my mark.

Jay Dub · #35 03-20-2012, 06:54 PM

I'm quoting you because I agree, I'm bumping this because I played a round with Cali today and he misunderstands this rule.

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Originally Posted by MNcyclone

It depends on what you are thinking. First, you must have one point in contact at release. So if you are thinking you will leap into the air, release, and land behind your marker, then no.

Second, you must have a point in contact within 30 cm of your mark on the line, so if you are thinking you will release from a few feet back, leap, and land behind your marker, then no.

Third, if you are thinking you can release from 30 cm back, leap, and land behind your marker, then yes, you can!!

803.04 Stance, Subsequent to Teeing Off:
A. When the disc is released, a player must:

(1) Have at least one supporting point that is
in contact with the playing surfaceon the line of play and within 30 centimters directly behind the marker disc (except as specified in 803.04 E); and,

(2) have no supporting point contact with the marker disc or any object closer to the hole than the rear edge of the marker disc; and,

(3) have all of his or her supporting points in-bounds.

B. Stepping past the marker disc is permitted after the disc is released, except when putting within 10 meters.

Jay Dub · #36 03-20-2012, 07:19 PM

I better add the next part.

One other thing, I looked through the rule book and can't find the phrase "jump putt". I was told there is something in there about jump putts.

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C. Any throw from within 10 meters or less, as measured from the rear of the marker disc to the base of the hole, is considered a putt. A follow-through after a putt that causes the thrower to make any supporting point contact closer to the hole than the rear edge of the marker disc constitutes a falling putt and is considered a stance violation . The player must demonstrate full control of balance before advancing toward the hole.