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Old 01-05-2012, 05:16 PM
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I think a big part of the issue is that they are too hard - too tight and punishing for errant drives. So, they get dinged enough by people who do not like that stuff. Of the DGCR top 10, I have played numbers 1 (FB), 2 (FC) & 3 (IW) and only Idlewild is a tight/punishing course......but it is beautiful to begin with and it is so nicely developed and manicured and maintained I think it gets its high marks for that.

Both Renny & Hornet's Nest have really nice and pretty areas on them, but at least 1/2 of each of those courses is either nothing special or actually unattractive.

Another thing that the QC (and that region in general) has going against it is "grade deflation". I promise you that Kilborne, Sugaw, Reedy, Johnson St, Glenn C Hilton, Valley View, Lakes Edge, Wellspring, Boyd Hill, etc (all quite good courses) get average scores since they are indeed the average in that area.....and courses like those (or even worse) in other areas of the country get very good scores since they are the best courses people in those parts have ever played.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:54 PM
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Renny and Hornets Nest lose the private course feel points. Navigation is a bit lacking also. They are tough and not all that "pretty." If championship level courses were being rated by tourning pros; they would be in a second tier also; because some of the pros think some holes have unfair greens. They are great courses; but fall in a "tweener range" of value. As pointed out; they are also surrounded by many other good courses; including some private ones; that tend to blend them in to the general area; ratings wise. I think it's recognized that as a whole, the qc area is one of the best in the country. IMHO Nevin is a wonderful course as well.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:30 PM
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Me to (13)....well I had to go to 52 to get 13. Not sure that is depressing or if it just points to the fact that I play anything anywhere any time.

If you count just 18 or more holers, I am at 13 of the bottom 50 and 16 of the bottom 60 (over 25%!). I think that what this means is that the real bottom courses do not get a lot of reviews.
It could also be due to te overwhelming number of bad courses in northern Illinois
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:52 PM
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2011 only: 4 of top 10, 15 of top 50. Not bad getting 40% & 30% considering I have only played less than 9% of the courses in the country

All time top 50: 3 of top 10 (1, 2 & 3), 13 of top 50
You should come down to southern IL area and play foundation park (#37 on the list)! There's a lot of nice golf around here.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:55 PM
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I'll have to make the trip down there, Eric!!!
Just let me know when you want to come down juke.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:56 PM
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Just let me know when you want to come down juke.
Fo' sho'!!

Likewise, if you're ever up in the area, hit me up!

(I think last time you were up my dad was sick, so it was a definite no-go on that one...I'm sorry I missed ya though. )
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:00 PM
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Fo' sho'!!

Likewise, if you're ever up in the area, hit me up!

(I think last time you were up my dad was sick, so it was a definite no-go on that one...I'm sorry I missed ya though. )
It's cool, probably head up toward that area sometime in the next couple months. I never come up north at the right times.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:09 PM
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You should come down to southern IL area and play foundation park (#37 on the list)! There's a lot of nice golf around here.
I'd love to - that course is high on the list of courses I want to play. Eventually I'll make the trip and play there and the St Louis area courses too. Problem for me is that that is nowhere on the way to anywhere I ever go.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:29 PM
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I've only played Dela and Stafford lake. Sweet list, thanks.
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Cool. My new goal for 2012 is to play all of them.

40 down, 10 to go.
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