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How many 2s?

I found this interesting. From 2014 Am Worlds data.
I labeled the top ten outliers.
BL= Bryant Lake, LB=Lions (Blue tees), CP=C.P.Adams, BR=Blue Ribbon Pines, KR=Kenwood Trails (Red tees to blue basekts), TV=The Valley.

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Old 09-20-2014, 09:35 PM
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Why are LB9, CP02, and TV19 outliers? BL11, BL03, KR03, TV13 and KR11 strike me as poor holes just looking at the numbers.
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Why are LB9, CP02, and TV19 outliers? BL11, BL03, KR03, TV13 and KR11 strike me as poor holes just looking at the numbers.
The marked holes are the ones with way more or way fewer scores of 2 than expected for their length.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:14 PM
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The marked holes are the ones with way more or way fewer scores of 2 than expected for their length.
Are LB9, CP02, and TV19 downhill?
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Are LB9, CP02, and TV19 downhill?
TV10 is an open hyzer 35 feet downhill to a basket you can't really see behind trees filling up the middle of the fairway. The negative elevation would seem to explain why it is easy to 2.

However, I did the graph with effective length (plus or minus 3 feet for every foot of elevation up or down), and there was actually less relationship between effective length and the chance of a 2. Hmmm...

LB09 and CP02 are flat. Hmmm....
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Isn't TV13 like 350'?
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Isn't TV13 like 350'?
Yep, good catch. It still has unexpectedly low 2s, even for a 350 ft hole.
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I don't think just looking at % of 2s tells you a whole lot without looking at the rest of the scoring spread. If a short hole plays as a solid two shot hole and does a good job separating the field between 3s and 4s it might be ok, if everyone is getting a 3 with no birdies and few bogies then it's probably a bad design.
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