MA1 for Worlds is FULL!!!

[1978]

Originally Posted by Garrett76zt

I'd be interested to see what percentage of the amateur field each year is made up of invited players vs. open registrants. To pushback on your point, if attendance has little to do with invites THEN WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT? If you invite more people you have more people that have more time to make up their minds about coming to your event. . .



Yes but you should also take into account that in alot of places around the country your field size is DRASTICALLY reduced when you move up from INT to ADV. There are tons of tournaments that the MA2 winner gets more points than the MA1 winner does.

I guess my beef with changing the points requirements for Worlds is that points are ALREADY virtually useless. Qualifying for Worlds was pretty much the only reason to even have points cross your mind. They really mean nothing now.

Yea there are a number of things the PDGA might want to look at. You are right though, when I look at events in other areas I am suprised to see 8-10 Advanced and 30 INT. I think we have pretty even fields in Charlotte... and the Advanced players ARE at least advanced skill level.

[scarpfish]

One reason that I think in some parts of the country we're seeing large MA2 fields is that some TD's are going trophy only with MA3 or aren't offering it at all. MA3 players then play up. When guys who usually play MA1, but are MA2 eligible, see that huge field of likely donators, then they play down. MA1 players who aren't eligible, get discouraged by this and go play MPO or an age protected division if they're eligible. I saw an entire MA1 division disappear once due to this.

[TOURNEYPLAYER]

^if this is the case then why are their so many "INT donators" registered. seems that too many MA1 regulars got lazy and now can play up or watch us get this great experience. I think the reason there are so many people playing INT across the country is that there is added pressure to not play MA3 once you have won. and there are a lot of ADV players who should prob play open but dont, so if your rated 933 or so why play up and get smoked by some local whiz rated 996 or so. just sayin......

[1978]

7 more people register and we can say 2012 AM worlds - Charlotte was biggest am event ever. Its tough without the INT and REC divisions.

[chopz33]

what are the odds people on the waiting list get called to play?

[scarpfish]

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

^if this is the case then why are their so many "INT donators" registered.

Because Am Worlds is always seen as much as a party as a competition, and at $115 for entry compared to $500+ in ancillary expenses, that's a bargain considering an event like this doesn't happen in everyone's neck of the woods every year. Even under the old invite criteria this was the case.

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

seems that too many MA1 regulars got lazy and now can play up or watch us get this great experience.

Or they just didn't realize the invite criteria had loosened considerably.

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

I think the reason there are so many people playing INT across the country is that there is added pressure to not play MA3 once you have won.

Or in the case that I mentioned, there's no incentive to stay down since there's nothing to win.

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

and there are a lot of ADV players who should prob play open but dont, so if your rated 933 or so why play up and get smoked by some local whiz rated 996 or so. just sayin......

Why should a 933 rated player play Open? Why doesn't he just stay in Advanced? If we stopped paying Ams prizes and treated them like true amateurs, perhaps we wouldn't have that issue. Of course, I'm sure attendance at tournaments most everywhere would plummet.

[TOURNEYPLAYER]

Originally Posted by scarpfish

Why should a 933 rated player play Open? Why doesn't he just stay in Advanced? If we stopped paying Ams prizes and treated them like true amateurs, perhaps we wouldn't have that issue. Of course, I'm sure attendance at tournaments most everywhere would plummet.

wasnt saying they should play Open, but the 997 rated Am playing adv should.

[Script]

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

wasnt saying they should play Open, but the 997 rated Am playing adv should.

No person in any sport should be forced to play professionally. The term bagger for MA1 doesn't exist in my book.

[scarpfish]

Originally Posted by TOURNEYPLAYER

wasnt saying they should play Open, but the 997 rated Am playing adv should.

And 997 rated Ams can't play INT, so they have absolutely no influence on large MA2 fields. There are also only two Ams in the entire world rated that high. There are fewer than 25 rated 980 or higher.

So what was your point?

[New013]

that Paul Priest guy needs to go Pro.. if he started a thread on here i'd tell him that.