Internet wisdom?

[sidewinder22]

Good luck learning to better your technique with your (insert high speed driver).

[jrawk]

maybe Feldberg and Climo were trying to promote their signature discs? (Boss, wraith, firebird, etc)

[pchitti]

^^LOL

I disc down for practice and play when Im working on a form issue. Not going to do any better in competition with faster discs while throwing like crap.

My rounds vary at most 3 strokes when Im using just my mids and putters.

[craftsman]

Top pros support dd'n, they just dont support a snide version.
Both carry fairway drivers and learned from slower drivers. Ask them how far they throw tb's.

Dd'n isnt just for cleaning oat . If wholeheartly followed, one should have learned good course management, versitility of their discs, and how height effects distance. Anytime you are working on changing your form, the results will be observed much easier for most with a slower disc they can consistantly get a full flight from.



DD is a tool for those that arent satisfied with their game. In competitive play, a smart golfer should usually play their percentages.
Slowroll, i feel that you are always trying to disprove dd

[ArcheType]

Originally Posted by RoundWounds

They do this because yes, they NEED reliability and consistency to win tournaments (and make money).

But, they CAN bomb their putters out 300' and their mids 350', and that ability is what allows them to bomb drivers 500, 600' +.

Discing down is a form of practice and technique building, no one has ever suggested that it should be used for tournament play.

This. Discing down is a technique used to get yourself familiar with the mechanics, once you are familiar (by familiar, I mean at the level you want to improve to, because once you disc up, improvement rates drop off a lot) with them, throw whatever gets you closest most often. The "rules" change then.

The big problem is everyone thinks discing down should be done for a lifetime. It's a training technique, like athletes wearing weighted vests underneath their uniforms during practice season to build speed. They don't keep wearing them once it's time for the regular season. The same applies to discing down.

another thing: they say that they disc up for consistency because faster and more stable discs fly more consistently once you have a consistent throw. They're less affected by wind. The thing about discing down is, once again, actually building a consistent throw.

[Norcal]

Originally Posted by Oklahyzer

Slower discs teach mistakes better than faster discs.

I'd add that faster discs can encourage bad form, especially in new players.

Originally Posted by garublador

Dude nailed it.

Think of it this way. If you can throw a putter 300' and you step up to a 300' hole with whatever layout, you have the option of using every disc in your bag to get there. If you throw your putter 200' you'll be limited to your distance drivers. Who do you think will encounter more 300' holes they can deuce comfortably? It isn't always about powering down, either. Many times just throwing a hyzer with a faster disc instead of a straight shot with a slower disc will be more reliable, but they both require the same power.

I'd add that neutral fairway drivers, mids, and putters are far easier to control than high speed drivers. Fast drivers are subject to radical skips they're difficult to land flat. It's much easier to throw a pure line with a slower disc.

[New013]

Of course they don't throw their putters on 300'+ drives.. they don't have an Anode in their bag.

[JTacoma03]

Originally Posted by craftsman

- good course management
- versitility of their discs
- how height effects distance.

These are neither lessons where discing down is required, nor are they inherent benefits of discing down. Sorry, that's just propaganda.

If you want to learn course management, take your whole bag to a course when its empty and throw as many lines as you can find on lots of different holes until you lock in the high % line.

If you want to learn about a single mold's versatility, take that mold to a field and throw it 100 times...that's not discing down, that's just practicing.

Same thing for height affecting distance, just take ANY disc and practice different release angles and nose angles until you've mastered it.

[mjoyce]

I look at discing down similarly to learning a musical instrument. You're not going to pick up a guitar today and learn to play Pantera on your first day. No you're going to start with the basics. I think discing down is like going back to the basics. It's much easier to get a slower more neutral disc to turn over.

Yes you could take your fastest most stable driver to a field and throw it 100 times and learn the disc. But if your form sucks you're only going to learn that you can throw that disc on a short hyzer. Unless you always throw that disc with an anhyzer release. Then you'll get some distance out of that disc but you may sacrifice your form and control with other discs by doing this.

Maybe not everyone needs to disc down. But it's probably beneficial to periodically check your form by driving your putters/neutral mids in a field or on an empty course.

As others have stated. It's practice. You're training with the slower neutral discs so that you can develop consistent form with a clean release.

[garublador]

Originally Posted by JTacoma03

Same thing for height affecting distance, just take ANY disc and practice different release angles and nose angles until you've mastered it.

Except it's much more difficult to do with faster discs. It's much easier to learn to throw slower discs high and nose down than it is faster discs.

maybe Feldberg and Climo were trying to promote their signature discs? (Boss, wraith, firebird, etc)

Climo has the Roc, Aviar and Teebird, too.