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Old 10-09-2012, 02:20 PM
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"MVP Volt will be shipping to us on Oct. 22nd- arriving 24th-26th ish. New driver from the makers of the Ion! We will have them soon!"

This is from The Throw Shop's (located in Ypsilanti, MI) facebook!
Hmmmm.. I might have to make a trip to play the Ponds on the 27th, weather willing. I only need 4 more punches on my card to get a free disc!
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:47 PM
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Having talked with Blake and Dan Beto, who do all the testing and throwing and rating for GGGT, there is definitely a difference in performance when the temps drop below 50*. I was also referring to our competitive season, which there are only a few tourneys left, none of which I'm playing. Ofc we play all winter long, but it's not the same. You seem to call me out over everything out of the blue, please stop it.
this makes sense, it was me that was calling you out. lots of people take the winter off and it's silly. it's sounds like there was a miscommunication though, i understand what you mean now.


i don't need to reply again just to change topics...

how does the plastic affect speed? the rim width and shape would affect speed, i can see that, but i guess i'm with steve on the P vs N debate. I can't think of any reason why a different plastic core would make something faster.

edit: and with most of the weight in the outside edge to create the "gyro." the inside plastic shouldn't create much difference... should it? or is the idea of "gyro" technology a little exagerated.

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Old 10-09-2012, 03:59 PM
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how does the plastic affect speed? the rim width and shape would affect speed, i can see that, but i guess i'm with steve on the P vs N debate. I can't think of any reason why a different plastic core would make something faster.

edit: and with most of the weight in the outside edge to create the "gyro." the inside plastic shouldn't create much difference... should it? or is the idea of "gyro" technology a little exagerated.
You'd think that it would be the case, but there have been multiple people who have come to the same conclusion. Perhaps the plastics are a different texture at a microscopic level making one have less air resistance than the other. Just something to think about. Also, I've noticed that with the Axis and Vector the transition between the overmold and the core are a lot smoother in the N line than in P.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:17 PM
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So, not to be all late to the party and whatnot, but what are the expected numbers on this thing? Is it going to be replacing my River, my Stalker, or my Predator?
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:20 PM
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how does the plastic affect speed? the rim width and shape would affect speed, i can see that, but i guess i'm with steve on the P vs N debate. I can't think of any reason why a different plastic core would make something faster.

edit: and with most of the weight in the outside edge to create the "gyro." the inside plastic shouldn't create much difference... should it? or is the idea of "gyro" technology a little exagerated.
It takes very minute, even imperceptible changes in any single variable on any part of the disc to make large differences in flight. You wouldn't believe how strange some things have turned out at the MVP factory during initial prototyping of slightly different versions of the same plastic. If a core shrinks more or less because of the exact plastic blend/cooling time/cooling temp then it will affect how exactly the overmold comes together with it. For example, when MVP first prototyped medium plastic Ions the plastic shaped up so much differently than the softs at room temp that the overmold slipped way low and completely covered the bead. MVP had to do some tweaking to get the mediums to look like the softs. Even now I think soft MVP discs and regular/medium proton discs fly MUCH differently from each other in multiple ways, even though the overmolds are exactly the same.

So in short, anything thing MVP does different could and probably will have a partially unanticipated effect on how the discs fly. Neutron soft my end up not flying like soft Proton or Neutron...It could be less stable or more stable, faster or slower, etc. No one knows until in happens...

Rather than the overmold making in more likely for an MVP disc to fly the same in different plastics, it actually adds more variables that could magnify the flight differences instead.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:28 PM
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So, not to be all late to the party and whatnot, but what are the expected numbers on this thing? Is it going to be replacing my River, my Stalker, or my Predator?
Nobody knows for certain, no one but Chad and Brad have thrown the final product I'm sure. (Maybe Zam, also) But Discspeed would have the best guess seeing how he's thrown the protos.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM
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Nobody knows for certain, no one but Chad and Brad have thrown the final product I'm sure. (Maybe Zam, also) But Discspeed would have the best guess seeing how he's thrown the protos.
I've been told not to put too much weight into my experience with the protos as they did not have the optimal settings dialed in on the old machine...So we're just going to have to wait and see. My package was in Ohio as of midnight, so I'm thinking Mike C should get his today.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:41 PM
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That's why I said 'guess'
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:50 PM
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super stoked for this!! i jump on the hype wagon all the time with new releases....but i feel like mvp won't disapoint!!
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:53 PM
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Mmmm... MVP plastic. I love what they do. Can't wait to see how it effects a driver.
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