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Old 10-24-2012, 04:06 PM
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No. It was changed because innova said it flew similar but they are different shapes

The volt isn't as fast as a beast/orc either
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:07 PM
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I believe orcs are faster and don't hold slower lines as well. The faster a disc, the quicker it stops turning and starts fading. Most long controlled annys arent going to be done with a nuke, but it could sure be done with a pd, a teebird, leopard, or beast. Or many other stable to understable, slower, discs.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:14 PM
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Discspeed

If I tell a customer "give this disc 10 rounds, then you will be able to throw it properly"...I am pretty sure I wouldnt get any sales on the Volt

To me every disc has a learning curve. But customers don't want to hear that, because the first throw needs to be magic. I can adjust my throw to make a trashed QJLS hold long hyzers, that doesn't mean the QJLS is stable or flippy, I've just adjusted myself to the disc

But the Volt is unique in that everyone can throw it out of the box. There are very few drivers I can recommend to every type of customer, and the Volt just joined the list. It's a do it all driver. You can adapt your throw to make it do everything, hence my -2/2 thinking.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:29 PM
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Discspeed

If I tell a customer "give this disc 10 rounds, then you will be able to throw it properly"...I am pretty sure I wouldnt get any sales on the Volt

To me every disc has a learning curve. But customers don't want to hear that, because the first throw needs to be magic. I can adjust my throw to make a trashed QJLS hold long hyzers, that doesn't mean the QJLS is stable or flippy, I've just adjusted myself to the disc

But the Volt is unique in that everyone can throw it out of the box. There are very few drivers I can recommend to every type of customer, and the Volt just joined the list. It's a do it all driver. You can adapt your throw to make it do everything, hence my -2/2 thinking.
So at 9/5/-2/2, that puts it in Valk territory, right?
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:43 PM
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So at 9/5/-2/2, that puts it in Valk territory, right?
Everyone seems to agree that it shows no turn at 350 power. A Valk would turn at that range.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:44 PM
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I did head out last night to play a round with my Volts. Unfortunately, it was anywhere from a sprinkle to a downpour the entire time so I looked at every shot I took with a grain of salt. Today is absolutely GORGEOUS, but of course my wife doesn't work so I don't get to go out discing. D'oh!

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So at 9/5/-2/2, that puts it in Valk territory, right?
(In my limited testing) The Volt threw quite similar to my Beasts. I would not put it near the turn over of a Valkyrie.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:44 PM
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Close to Valk but different enough

Remember ratings are arbitrary. And my view of them is most likely different from the Mike's
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:45 PM
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I think I see where ZJ is coming from, I think the problem is more in narrowing a disc down to 4 numbers.
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Everyone seems to agree that it shows no turn at 350 power. A Valk would turn at that range.
It does turn if thrown flat. Numbers are based on flat throws, not hyzer flips

Having turn doesn't mean it won't fade back

The inflight numbers show plenty of turn

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Old 10-24-2012, 04:53 PM
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Anyone in the closer to 300-feet-of-power range had a chance to toss these a little more? Just curious. I know Mike C's buddy is on one video, but a written breakdown would be intriguing.
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