Experimental Bag.What do you guys think?

[StarFirebird]

My Distances on Average
Putters - 220ft - 250ft,
MidRanges - 270ft-300ft
Drivers - 325ft - 380ft

Long Term Goals
I'm trying to get away from Chucking the disc,been working on more smooth throws and working on the forehand again.I don't really want to be that Big Distance Driver anymore,I feel I have to force myself which causes shoulder pain and not so accurate throws.I want that Finesse game back that I used to have before I hurt my shoulder.

Discs I'm looking for
I'm mainly looking for anything that works real well with Finesse Drives and Midrange Drives.I'm also looking for a Utility Putter,mainly one on the really overstable side.


Drivers

167 Discraft Elite Z Avenger - Forehand Shots and Overstable Backhand Drives.Windy Days
169 Discraft Elite Z Predator - Forehand Shots and Overstable Fairway Drives.Windy Days
170 Discraft Z Stalker - Go to Driver right now.Very Straight with a Slow Fade at the end.
170 Discraft Elite Z Flick - Utility Driver.Mainly Overhands and get out of trouble Forehand shots.
170 Discraft 2001 Edition Cyclone - Basically it's my Comet of drivers.
170 Innova Pro Destroyer - My Big Distance and Windy Day Driver.
169 Innova Star Sidewinder - Very Straight Driver with a little fade on the end.Good for tight Fairway Shots.
161 Innova Star Roadrunner - My Turnover Driver and shots that go right.My go to Roller.
166 Innova Champion 5xJK Valkyrie - My wooded low Ceiling driver.Good for big Turnover shots.
175 Innova 11xKC Pro Gazelle - Very good Stable Fairway Driver.

Mids:

176 Gateway Warrior - My Utility Midrange.Very good Overstable Mid and good for forehands.
174 Discraft Elite X Buzzz - Very Good Straight Mid with a small fade at the end.Mainly a low ceiling mid.
174 Discraft Elite X Comet - Form cleaning up disc.I use this all the time to work on form issues.
168 Innova Panther - Good Turnover Mid.Very easy to control.Doubles as a short range roller.
179 Innova 11xKC Pro Roc(Domey) - Farther Flying Stable mid.When I know the Buzz won't get there I use this Roc.
177 Innova 11xKC Pro Roc(Flat Top) - Straight Mid used for farther flying mid shots.

Putters:

2 175 Gateway Medium Wizards - Main Putters.
175 Gateway Medium Magic - Turnover Drives and Jump Putts.
175 Gateway Soft Voodoo - Straight Drives
175 Gateway Super Stupid Soft Voodoo - Straight Upshots and Turnover Upshots.
175 Gateway Evolution Pro-Line Wizard - Slightly Overstable Drives.

[foo_g]

Are you looking for disc ideas to add to your bag, or input on your existing arsenal?
For you "Wants" list, here are my thoughts and what I throw:

I would describe it as an approach disc, but I think the Zone might be what you are looking for with in an OS putter. It's short-ranged, flat, and very OS.

For finesse drives, I'm getting a vision of tight tunnel shots and anything requiring pin-point accuracy over distance in my head. I like the Leopard for these -- Star to finish straight or to the right, Champion to fade out to the left (RHBH).

For the same type of disc in a mid-range (only shorter ranged), I prefer the Axis. It can finish either direction, resists wind fairly well, is very consistent at high and low-power shots, and will handle just about anything in the 100-300 ft range.

[cooliomcfly]

The zone id definitely what you are looking for as an OS putter, it is my favorite for tight throws from a distance because it is so consistent. it took a little bit of time to get used to as i have always had domy discs. As for finess midranges, i prefer an Innova mako. it has almost no fade which makes it very manipulatable to follow any line you need to throw it on. Mine is also 180g which makes it very useful in windy conditions.

[StarFirebird]

Originally Posted by foo_g

Are you looking for disc ideas to add to your bag, or input on your existing arsenal?
For you "Wants" list, here are my thoughts and what I throw:

I would describe it as an approach disc, but I think the Zone might be what you are looking for with in an OS putter. It's short-ranged, flat, and very OS.

For finesse drives, I'm getting a vision of tight tunnel shots and anything requiring pin-point accuracy over distance in my head. I like the Leopard for these -- Star to finish straight or to the right, Champion to fade out to the left (RHBH).

For the same type of disc in a mid-range (only shorter ranged), I prefer the Axis. It can finish either direction, resists wind fairly well, is very consistent at high and low-power shots, and will handle just about anything in the 100-300 ft range.

Disc Ideas,Input, Good or Bad.

Is anything overlapping?Or do I need this disc instead of this one?

It was only a Year ago when I even knew anything about the faster drivers.I've kind of been under a Rock.I use to use Valkyries,Firebirds and Beasts as my main drivers and could Finesse them pretty good.Those Faster drivers sort of messed up may game so to speak and the only one I feel comfortable in throwing is the Destroyer.

I've also just recently got my feet wet with Discraft.So far I like the Buzzz,Comet and Stalker the best.Been working with the other ones.

Does Discraft make the Zone?I really do need a very overstable putter as it will do nicely for utility needs.

Leopard, I do have 1 or 4 ,but have been using my Cyclone as a teaching disk and having been making those shots you speak of.

How does the Axis compare to the rest of mids?Would it compliment or replace anything I already have?Who makes the Axis?Sorry I'm not too familiar with it.

[StarFirebird]

Originally Posted by cooliomcfly

The zone id definitely what you are looking for as an OS putter, it is my favorite for tight throws from a distance because it is so consistent. it took a little bit of time to get used to as i have always had domy discs. As for finess midranges, i prefer an Innova mako. it has almost no fade which makes it very manipulatable to follow any line you need to throw it on. Mine is also 180g which makes it very useful in windy conditions.

2 Zone suggestions...I'd say that's a pretty good indication that's the utility putter I need.

The Mako.You know I've never thrown one before.Does it throw similar to anything that I already have?Or is it pretty much in it's own class?

[Violets caddy]

Seems like the sidewinder, roadrunner, and valk could all fill the same role?

[StarFirebird]

Originally Posted by Violets caddy

Seems like the sidewinder, roadrunner, and valk could all fill the same role?

Do you think I should take one or a few of them out in place of something else?

I'm up to try some new plastic for those finesse shots or really straight shots with not a lot of power.

[JoshEpoo]

It seems like you're over thinking....

You just got the Comet and Stalker yesterday but already they've become your "go-to" and you "use them all the time". Seems likely the Avenger, Pred, and Flick are all going to overlap for you, as well as the Sidewinder and Valk.

Overall, just too complicated and too many molds. 10 different drivers, 5 mids, 3 putters. Check out "How to Build a Bag"...

[Violets caddy]

Originally Posted by StarFirebird

Do you think I should take one or a few of them out in place of something else?

I'm up to try some new plastic for those finesse shots or really straight shots with not a lot of power.

You don't need new plastic, you've got multiple discs that can fill the same slot. Choose one, ditch the other two.
Building a bag should be about simplicity. You don't want half a dozen discs that all basically do the same thing just because each one is a fraction more/less stable than the next.
My driver lineup looks like this,
Spd
Star roadrunner
11x firebird
That's it, all my drives are coverd with three discs while you're covering each type of drive with three discs.
Who's more likely to master their discs and get good consistent drives every time?
Get what I'm saying?

[StarFirebird]

Originally Posted by JoshEpoo

It seems like you're over thinking....

You just got the Comet and Stalker yesterday but already they've become your "go-to" and you "use them all the time". Seems likely the Avenger, Pred, and Flick are all going to overlap for you, as well as the Sidewinder and Valk.

Overall, just too complicated and too many molds. 10 different drivers, 5 mids, 3 putters. Check out "How to Build a Bag"...

The Sidewinder I could probably get rid of.I only use it for one shot as with the Valkyrie I use for multiple shots.

The Stalker is my go to driver now.For the types of throws I'm throwing the Stalker and it fits the bill precisely.It's just real easy to control.

The Comet is more of a Work on issues disc.Since I don't keep score,I throw it on every hole before I throw my actual drive.I've probably thrown it over hundred times so far in the past 3 days(been sick so I've been playing a lot of disc golf to catch up)

The Avenger and the Predator I can see could overlap,but not the Flick.I'm not a powerful guy and the only time I use Flick is on Utility forehanders and straight on tomahawks.The Avenger can fly farther for me and the Predator feels like a Eagle and flies about the same distance as a Eagle for me.I guess I should do a side by side on the Avenger and Predator and really see the differences.

What do you think?Less molds for drivers or multiples on some?More Midranges?The putters I'm fine with.I just need that Zone now and I'll be set
On my putters.