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Old 07-27-2012, 03:10 PM
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not exactly, overhands do put more wear on discs due to them slamming down instead of floating/fading down to the ground.
My point was meant to say that Champion, like when used backhand/forehand, will season slower than DX/Pro/Star, Star seasons slower than DX/Pro, etc.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
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My opinion : Whippet longest and Firebird also very good. Never tried the others on the list for thumbers but a Banshee is also excellent.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:42 PM
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Understable Flat-top Firebird?

I didn't know Firebirds could be so flat that it made them understable. I've got one that's REALLY flat, champion, looks and flies like a Flick.

I don't throw overhead shots very well yet, and this Firebird is nigh on too overstable for me for thumbers. I can't always get it to do a complete pan, and it winds up being, like, a pancake shot.

The best thumber thrower I know uses a champ Excal, and he's deadly with it to 300+.

The main thing is to find a disc that is overstable enough to pan relatively slowly, for distance, but that will make the full rollover.

I find that the more overstable the disc, the more lateral room it needs for a thumber flight. Flippy discs pan real quick, so you lose D but it's a much tighter flight.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:09 PM
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I don't throw them but I've played with the best thumbed throwers around, and the y all use the nuke os.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:11 PM
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I'd add that faster overstable discs travel further thrown overhand than their slower brethren. My go to thumber disc is Champ Xcal for this very reason. If I'm just going over something and don't need much distance(think approach shot), a FLX Drone is the call due to its ability to hit and sit. The FLX plastic is the best I've found for absorbing and dispersing impact with no drama.
I'll second that. The FLX Drone is the best short range thumber disc I've ever thrown. Granted, it's the ONLY short range thumber disc I've ever thrown, but it ain't broke so I ain't gonna fix it.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:15 PM
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It's not the disc; it's the amount of snap and power you are getting on your thumber. If under-powered, the disc won't complete the rotation and/or come back to straight after initially slicing left. Thumbers take arm strength and wrist snap.


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I don't throw overhead shots very well yet, and this Firebird is nigh on too overstable for me for thumbers. I can't always get it to do a complete pan, and it winds up being, like, a pancake shot.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:42 PM
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I've tried flat firebirds, ce firebirds, whippets & I found that beat to hell (4-6 / 10)max weight 10x & 11x KC pro eagles are da BOMB!!! Many ohhhh's & ahhhh's
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:55 PM
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The best thumber disc for you is determined by the release speed and spin of the disc abd angle of release and what you want it to do.

Try every disc in your bag and you'll probably find a gem of your own.

Very few people can handle a flat Firebird.
Most players who are starting out will do very well with an 11x TB or 11x Eagle or Starfire or Avenger. When that gets too flippy, then start thinking about a Firebird or Predator.

Just my two cents.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:57 PM
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My point was meant to say that Champion, like when used backhand/forehand, will season slower than DX/Pro/Star, Star seasons slower than DX/Pro, etc.
I'll second this.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:00 PM
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It's not the disc; it's the amount of snap and power you are getting on your thumber. If under-powered, the disc won't complete the rotation and/or come back to straight after initially slicing left. Thumbers take arm strength and wrist snap.
QFT.
Excellent point.
If your disc is not rotating completely, you're using a disc that's too stable for you. Get a disc that is less overstable. I recomend that players who are new to thumbers start of with a TeeBird or Eagle or Avenger if you're into Discraft. There are lots of others to choose from.

Stay away from FB's and Whippets and Banshees until you can flip these easily.
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