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Old 08-01-2012, 06:52 AM
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So yesterday during a tag round with friends I had to put through a spider web...I missed. I also had the box and discovered a spider web directly off the tee pad....so it seems silly to complain but it did affect me off the tee and the putt. I doubt you are allowed to break up a spider web but was wondering whats the ruling. Being the guy that had to clear the spider web off the tee seemed particularly unfair.

All in all it was funny but I was just wondering how everyone would rule this...
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:03 AM
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That must have been the mother of all spider webs if it deflected your putt.

NO idea about the ruling though.
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:06 AM
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At least it would stick to the chains better...
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:43 AM
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Maybe you could remove it if it was a safety hazard?
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:12 AM
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I hate spiders like Indiana Jones hates snakes. I once froze for a full two minutes upon discovering a full grown wolf spider on a log while doing some course work. Once I got over the fear, I killed it. (Screw you, spiders!) That being said, I don't think I'd whine about the unfairness of having to clear a web when playing a round with my friends. A web is not a course feature, and the very design and intent of a spiderweb (to the spider) is a temporary structure, and certainly doesn't fall under damaging a part of the course itself. I'm sure you can clear them away to your heart's content. I suggest finding a nice hearty stick to carry, or perhaps wd-40 and a lighter. If your friends, laughing, told you you had to clear the web off the tee because you were up, that's pretty resonable, but hardly a rule. If you felt the need to refuse their request, however, maybe a more indoor hobby would be a better fit for you. (Please take all mocking in stride )
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:16 AM
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A. Obstacles to a Stance or Throwing Motion: With the exception of casual obstacles to a stance as described in 803.05 B, a player is not allowed to move any obstacle on the course. No relief is granted from park equipment (such as signs, trash cans, picnic tables, etc), which is considered part of the course. A player is allowed to request that other people remove themselves and/or their belongings from the player's stance or line of play. A player must choose the stance which results in the least movement of any obstacle. Once a legal stance is taken, the player may not move an obstacle in any way in order to make room for a throwing motion. It is legal for a player's throwing motion to cause incidental movement of an obstacle.
A spider web clearly constitutes an obstacle. So it can not be moved. Unless...

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B. Casual Obstacles to a Stance: A player may obtain relief only from the following obstacles that are in the stance or run-up area: casual water, loose leaves or debris, broken branches no longer connected to a tree, motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, players' equipment, people, or any item or area specifically designated by the director before the round. The player must first attempt to remove the obstacle. If it is impractical to move the obstacle, the player's lie may be relocated to the nearest lie which is no closer to the hole, is on the line of play, and is not more than five meters from the original lie, as agreed to by a majority of the group or an official (unless greater casual relief is announced by the director).
...spiders could be considered "harmful animals."
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:21 AM
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if somebody called me out for moving a spider web i'd go find the spider and put it on them
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If the web is in front of your lie, you can't remove it per the rules. However, your follow-thru can strike it if it's close enough. From a practical standpoint, I might be inclined to walk forward of my lie to the basket and count steps back to my lie on a putt and just happen to walk thru the web on my way back.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:48 AM
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A spider web clearly constitutes an obstacle. So it can not be moved. Unless...



...spiders could be considered "harmful animals."
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If the web is in front of your lie, you can't remove it per the rules. However, your follow-thru can strike it if it's close enough. From a practical standpoint, I might be inclined to walk forward of my lie to the basket and count steps back to my lie on a putt and just happen to walk thru the web on my way back.
That sounds about right. I hate spiders myself...
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:00 AM
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A spider web clearly constitutes an obstacle. So it can not be moved. Unless...

...spiders could be considered "harmful animals."
Then you can move the spider, but not the web? Tricky.

ALL spiders are harmful animals. Oh, maybe they're not venomous, but old guys like me are prone to serious ligament damage in the first 2 seconds after realizing a spider is crawling across our face. Any spider.
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