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Old 08-23-2012, 04:37 PM
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It sounds like the rule is being updated (pending PDGA Board approval) where GPS and rangefinders will be legal to carry and use starting Jan 1, 2013. You still won't have more than 30 seconds to throw when it's your turn.
Seriously?!

Personally, I think that's kinda awesome... but seriously??

[Pauses to make sure Chuck isn't posting on April 1.]

What's the rationale behind that change? Too hard to police the old rule?
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:47 PM
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It doesn't make sense to sell a PDGA app that can't be used for scoring because the device running it has GPS capabilities in it. I pointed that out at the Fall Summit last year and they agreed the rule needed to be tweaked.

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Old 08-23-2012, 04:55 PM
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what the rule means is that you:
-can't use any artificial device to help you measure the distance of a shot.
-can use a device to enforce a rule requiring exact distance (Such as 2M rules or 10M putting circle).

So you could use the tape measure to figure out if you are outside the circle, but you couldn't use it from the fairway(or any device) for the sake of shot selection (like being 250ft away).

Glad to see that they are changing this, but keeping the 30 second rule!
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:54 PM
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I think something has to be done to address the length of holes and the lack of marked distance and/or caddy books. I can't think of how many times I've been standing over a shot and been thinking, is this 240ft or 285ft? That and thrown a shot and thought it was good only to see it sail past or come up short. I like the idea of legal rangefinders, but I prefer the idea of marked courses.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:57 PM
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I think something has to be done to address the length of holes and the lack of marked distance and/or caddy books. I can't think of how many times I've been standing over a shot and been thinking, is this 240ft or 285ft? That and thrown a shot and thought it was good only to see it sail past or come up short. I like the idea of legal rangefinders, but I prefer the idea of marked courses.
And whose job is it to address this issue? Should the PDGA only sanction events on "properly" marked courses? That just means the courses that currently lack good signage will just not host PDGA events.

In a lot of ways, this site promotes what you're advocating. Good signage tends to be a common pro in reviews. When courses strive to get good reviews, signage can be a good focus point.

If you have issues with this at local courses, offer to step in and help raise money to get good signage in place. Take ownership if you don't like something!
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:03 PM
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Well, one way to address the issue is not make it illegal to use a device to tell how far away you are. I'm not advocating wholesale changes or upgrades, not even complaining. Just stating that it makes more sense to me for range finders to be legal. Ideally, to me, you wouldn't need signage particularly or anything expensive, I'm not talking about tee distance, but approach distance. You'd adopt something like ball golf. Golfers know a red marker (stake, brick, plaque, etc) means 100 yards, white 150yards, blue 200 yards. It's a lot easier to tell if you're 50 feet behind the 200 foot market than 250 feet from the basket. Just an observation since the topic was brought up, it's not a pressing issue to me.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:25 PM
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A Junior player at Worlds was reported where his Mom was using GPS on a smartphone to determine distances to the pin for his shots. They must have GPS mapped each of his courses in advance. No penalty because the marshal simply made a general announcement before the next round that GPS and rangefinders weren't allowed. So the behavior was never seen by an official.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:41 PM
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I find this interesting coming from golf where "distance to the hole" is considered public knowledge and is thus allowed. It's curious to me that distance measuring devices ("DMDs" in golf) are illegal in DG.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:58 PM
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Rangefinders are not legal in ball golf during competition UNLESS there's a local rule allowing it (see 14-3 b).
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:24 AM
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Ball golf courses are pretty well marked for distances also though.
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