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Old 10-03-2012, 08:33 AM
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3. Those 'illegal' jump putts arent really helping the people who are doing them anyway, the point of the jump putt is to gain some momentum from your legs to transfer into your throw. The only way you are actually transferring anything into your throw is if you release the disc before leaving/just as you are leaving the ground. Once you leave the ground the majority of the power you built up by jump putting is gone and there then is no point in taking a jump putt.
Yes. This is why it makes no sense to outlaw jump putting. Penalizing people who do it legally, just so its easier to stop a few morons who release while in the air, is a rules overreach. As you say, the people who are releasing after they leave the ground aren't gaining anything by it, so the prevalence of that poor technique is self-limiting.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:35 AM
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How about we just make all basket positions near cliffs or water, and then everybody will just lay up?
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM
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Actually, if his front foot is off the ground, he couldn't.

I think we're talking about different things.

I'm talking about the rules as they are. There's no rule about keeping both feet behind the mini.

It seems you're talking about a theoretical rule change to create a curved vertical plane* at the mini, which feet can't pass but other body parts can.


(*-my bad geometry; I'm not sure what the correct name for this would be).
I was talking about how I think it should be, not how it is.
The bold is correct.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:01 PM
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It seems you're talking about a theoretical rule change to create a curved vertical plane* at the mini, which feet can't pass but other body parts can.


(*-my bad geometry; I'm not sure what the correct name for this would be).
It would be a cylinder whose radius is the distance from the pin to your lie.

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Old 10-03-2012, 02:04 PM
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It would be a cylinder whose radius is the distance from the pin to your lie.

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Disagree....it would be a flat plane perpendicular with the furthest point from the pin of your mini.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:06 PM
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It would be a cylinder whose radius is the distance from the pin to your lie.

fixed that for you
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:09 PM
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Disagree....it would be a flat plane perpendicular with the furthest point from the pin of your mini.
Nope, all the rules about this sort of thing talk about no closer to the pin than your lie, a cylinder by definition has a base of all points the same distance from the center so anything outside it would be no closer to the pin.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:17 PM
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Nope, all the rules about this sort of thing talk about no closer to the pin than your lie, a cylinder by definition has a base of all points the same distance from the center so anything outside it would be no closer to the pin.
Sooo... wouldn't a sphere be the correct geometrical shape?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:21 PM
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Hmm, interesting, didn't think of it that way. If you wrote the rule such that you couldn't have any body part closer to the hole than your lie I suppose it would be, though I'm not sure where you would put the center (base of pin, middle of basket, middle of chains?).
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:34 PM
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Nope, all the rules about this sort of thing talk about no closer to the pin than your lie, a cylinder by definition has a base of all points the same distance from the center so anything outside it would be no closer to the pin.
While geometrically correct, I'm not sure I agree. It would be an interesting rules discussion though.
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