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Old 10-05-2012, 01:19 PM
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One, if not the only, reason I don't like jump putts is because it takes the thrower beyond their lie. That's not how the game is meant to be played.
Yup, right there. Anytime someone goes beyond their 'lie' it does not seem like a fair shot compared to the other types of shots that could be performed legitimately from the same location.



Regardless of rules, tell me that that camera still shows a shot that feels like a legitimate shot.

Think outside the box (PDGA rules)..
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:31 PM
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Any discussion about what jump putts look like is a red herring and has no bearing on whether they should be or can be legally part of our game. Can you think of a sport that doesn't sometimes showcase less graceful body positions or unflattering facial expressions during competition?
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:43 PM
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this doesn't have anything to do with what it 'looks' like, just the fact that the image shows someone well past their marker releasing the disc in a legal shot.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:46 PM
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this doesn't have anything to do with what it 'looks' like, just the fact that the image shows someone well past their marker releasing the disc in a legal shot.
the image doesn't show that.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:57 PM
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the image doesn't show that.
sorry, let me clarify... the image does not show someone releasing the disc past their lie. it shows that someone may or may not have a supporting point in contact with the ground in front of their lie and that the disc is clearly not in their hand. that's all it shows.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:00 PM
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sorry, let me clarify... the image does not show someone releasing the disc past their lie. it shows that someone may or may not have a supporting point in contact with the ground in front of their lie and that the disc is clearly not in their hand. that's all it shows.
Your right, it shows a huge possibility for faulting. Calling this real-time would be near impossible, requiring a high speed camera.

It also is a good example of how this putting style puts the player physically in front of their marker when releasing the disc.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:09 PM
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Your right, it shows a huge possibility for faulting. Calling this real-time would be near impossible, requiring a high speed camera.

It also is a good example of how this putting style puts the player physically in front of their marker when releasing the disc.
agreed. as i mentioned earlier, i watched Ben make this shot live. i was standing almost exactly where this video was shot from, and at the time i thought it was real close ... but soooo hard to know for sure.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:52 PM
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It also is a good example of how this putting style puts the player physically in front of their marker when releasing the disc.
Jump-putting or not, on all shots people have their hand, arm and sometimes much of their body in front of the vertical plane that extends up from their lie before the disc is released. A lie only cares about supporting points. Not your disc, your hand, your arm, or body.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:01 PM
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Everyone in this thread is being really melodramatic. For a while I jump putted every single putt from even 10' away from the basket. Legally. And it would still be legal under the new rules.

Line up 30 cm behind your marker. Jump putt up to your marker. Presto, a jump putt that never crosses your lie that is legal at any spot on the course.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:23 PM
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Putt jump up to your marker.
fixed it for you.
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