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Old 10-01-2012, 04:48 PM
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I have been playing for 18 years in PDGA events and I must say that it is about time. Falling putts should be illegal as should jump putts. Very rarely does someone jump putt legally.

I use the jump putt myself, but always feel as though I am cheating doing so.

It looks ugly, it eliminates the skill of throwing a disc Instead you just launch it into the air.


This is a great idea. 100 feet and in makes sense. I kind of think this is a good idea. I would love to see the jump putt eliminated from the sport. And I use them quite a bit. Would be nice to have people throw the disc from 100 feet again.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:57 PM
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I find this interesting. I had never really thought about what rules and amendments should be, or should not be, added to the game. I have only really started playing tournaments in the past year or so, so I haven't had to make many changes to the rules I know.

I have mixed feelings about the possibility of the jump putt being eliminated. I just jump sometimes, others I just stand and throw. I also feel that if the governing board is truly trying to improve the sport, then I am okay with proposing this. If someone just doesn't like jump putts and wants to see them gone... that is a different story. I used to think rollers were too easy....
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:15 PM
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1.) I missed you guys. It's been far too long.

2.) As someone said earlier, it's not about the jump-putting "rule", it's about all rules and enforcing them equally. The "problem" with our sport is WE as the players are ALSO the "referees". It's up to us as well informed players to enforce the rules. I've yet to play in a tourney or league round where ANY rules violations were called, other than the obvious OB, by anyone, including myself, when there have in fact been violations. It goes back to the problem of self regulation. You see a violation, but you don't want to be that guy, or you don't want someone else in your group to call you on something later on, so you let a small violation slide like moving an obstacle or making contact with your marker or a slight falling putt. As much as it sucks, we need to be more strict with each other and understand it's part of the game.

SO, if you see a player jump-putt illegally CALL HIM/HER on it. Let them know you believe it was illegal and why it was illegal and maybe they'll alter their putt and then BAM! no more rules violations the next go around.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:24 PM
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I personally think these rules are an issue of fairness. Legal jump-putting is almost impossible to distinguish from illegal jump putting in terms of foot placement and release. I personally think it should be banned.

And I laugh at whoever wants to allow falling putts. With my 6'6" wingspan and 6'3" height I wouldn't miss another 10 foot putt again, even if there was a hurricane. That would be a massive advantage over the shorter players. Go ahead.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:25 PM
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I love jump putters, them miss a majority of their putts trying to get fancy.
Ha, love it. I have yet to see a jump putt made in a tourney, on my card. Yet people do it all the time. I hit longer putts with my normal putting stroke, than they do jumping. and i finish just as close on a missed putt as they do jump putting....doesn't make any sense to me really, but to each their own, whatever works, etc.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:26 PM
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I personally think these rules are an issue of fairness. Legal jump-putting is almost impossible to distinguish from illegal jump putting in terms of foot placement and release. I personally think it should be banned.

And I laugh at whoever wants to allow falling putts. With my 6'6" wingspan and 6'3" height I wouldn't miss another 10 foot putt again, even if there was a hurricane. That would be a massive advantage over the shorter players. Go ahead.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:27 PM
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No falling past your lie at any time except teeing-off. It's a simple rule that's easy to understand and easy to enforce. PROBLEM SOLVED.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:39 PM
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SO, if you see a player jump-putt illegally CALL HIM/HER on it. Let them know you believe it was illegal and why it was illegal and maybe they'll alter their putt and then BAM! no more rules violations the next go around.
This is where you are wrong. That can never be the solution. If I make a call, I want to be certain that the other player did brake a rule. I don't want to call someone on something I think might have been a fault, that would lead to mess.

Then comes along jump putting. No one I know is able to tell on a regular jump putt when exactly was the disc release and more importantly, if the player still made contact with the ground. Therefore, you can't just start calling people on "it looks to my eye that your feet left the ground approx. 1/125th of a second before you released the disc.

So yeah, you can dislike jump putt, you can think they are unfair, but calling a foot fault, not really (unless you can somehow freeze time... I miss Heroes)

I guess I can think of three posibilities
1- make jump putt illegal by making the circle stupid big
2- leave the rules as they are and let people that can't jump putt complain
3- change the rules outside the circle and let people jump as they wish (like in Handball). Jump forward and release the disc whenever you want before you touch the ground again... I doubt throwing while in the air would really be that much of an advantage...

Honestly, I think all those 3 possibilities suck lol. Good think it's not my job to find a solution, if problem there is.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:40 PM
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No falling past your lie at any time except teeing-off. It's a simple rule that's easy to understand and easy to enforce. PROBLEM SOLVED.
That would suck for second longer shots though.
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:42 PM
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I personally think these rules are an issue of fairness. Legal jump-putting is almost impossible to distinguish from illegal jump putting in terms of foot placement and release. I personally think it should be banned.

And I laugh at whoever wants to allow falling putts. With my 6'6" wingspan and 6'3" height I wouldn't miss another 10 foot putt again, even if there was a hurricane. That would be a massive advantage over the shorter players. Go ahead.
Allow them only outside the circle.. Now, what do you say? You are gonna stand still, jump forward like a mad men and get 2 meter closer to the basket (?) at which point you will have to release the disc before touching ground and be precise doing it. Would love to see that.
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