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Old 10-07-2012, 09:59 PM
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If you haters truly don't think Paul deserves a Champ Roc as his signature disc, why don't you go talk to Dave in his PDGA thread about it instead of slamming one of our members for "not being worthy"? He's probably the one who OK'd it.
Wow, harsh. I didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers and for realz didn't mean any disrespect to McBeth. His a world champion, a great player and seems like an all around great guy from the little that I talked to him when he was in town. He deserves all that he gets, no doubt. No hatin from me, sorry if it was taken that way.

I thought that the point of my post was clear, but maybe it wasn't that was my surprise at the fact that obviously Dave D. okayed it and I'm sure that champions past have asked for a champ roc and been denied b/c champ rocs have been a USDGC exclusive item for so long. You know others must have asked for a production champ roc in the past and been shot down, it makes just makes sense, right? People have been wanting premium rocs as long as premium plastic has been around. We finally got stars and now it looks like we'll get champs.

I'm just really, really surprised that Dave would a) change his griplock stance on champ rocs being USDGC only and b) when they do get put into production, finally, let them be a sig disc immediately upon release. I haven't been playing that many years, but it seems like when sig discs are released they are already models/plastic in regular production and then get a sig stamp added to them later, except for KC pro plastic of course. I could be wrong about that tho, no doubt.

I was really surprised when I saw that disc and maybe I worded my opinions too strongly. I'm way more surprised by Dave D's decision to run these than anything. That's all I was meaning to say.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:04 PM
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there is a champ roc to combat the ti plastic buzz and wasp. its not hard to figure this out, mcbeth or not it was a matter of time. especially since they can run it in the new champ formula.

innova may remove my wasp now
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:40 AM
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I have two non factory seconds.

Saving them for a rainy day.

Gonna be worth a lot one of these days.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:22 PM
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Here is my McBeth roc Vs a 1st run TI Wasp:
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Both are flat and have great grip.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:24 PM
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Yeah but what do those pics mean? Will the new champ roc fly like a wasp? They look close
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:44 PM
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Yeah but what do those pics mean? Will the new champ roc fly like a wasp? They look close
I was just posting them for comparison. I am going to throw them tomorrow and test the Roc's stability. They are really close in profile and feel so that's what has me interested in comparing them.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:35 AM
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Just got DD news letter. They have these, with the factory second stamp, at the low price of $34.99
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:23 PM
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I threw my F2 today and I must say that they are a really nice roc. Not as overstable as a TI wasp or a champ rancho though. More like a new San Marino in my opinion. The roc had less fade than a wasp and less turn than a new max weight crystal buzzz, with about the same fade. My roc is 180g scaled. Definitely nowhere close to a Kenny glo.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:30 PM
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Just got DD news letter. They have these, with the factory second stamp, at the low price of $34.99
ya, $35 for a F2.. I think I can wait..
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:32 PM
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ya, $35 for a F2.. I think I can wait..
I wonder if they are kicking some cash to Paul or what the deal is with that price...
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